What are your thoughts on abortion?

[Xiuhcoyotl]

based tradcath hispanics support abortion almost exactly as much as the national average. Catholicism among US Latinos has been on a steady decline as they become atheists or convert to protestantism. In 2010, 67% of US Latinos were Catholic. 2024? 43%. A 2013 study found that nearly 1 in 4 Latino adults are "Former Catholics". Among the Latinos who are still catholic 38% report attending church "seldom or never"Among Latino youth: 49% are Unaffiliated, 30% are Catholic and 15% are Protestant.

Protestantism and Atheism is on the rise while Catholicism is on the decline.
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The problem for republicans is that while being anti-abortion is popular among registered republicans, it is widely unpopular among the population as a whole, including independents. The split between Republicans, Democrats and Independents as a percentage of total population is roughly equal. The only group that is more against abortion than they are for it are white evangelical protestants and conservative republicans.

HVITZILQPQCHTLI (SWT) IS WINNING

 

[Gem Control]

based tradcath hispanics support abortion almost exactly as much as the national average. Catholicism among US Latinos has been on a steady decline as they become atheists or convert to protestantism. In 2010, 67% of US Latinos were Catholic. 2024? 43%. A 2013 study found that nearly 1 in 4 Latino adults are "Former Catholics". Among the Latinos who are still catholic 38% report attending church "seldom or never"Among Latino youth: 49% are Unaffiliated, 30% are Catholic and 15% are Protestant.

Protestantism and Atheism is on the rise while Catholicism is on the decline.
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The problem for republicans is that while being anti-abortion is popular among registered republicans, it is widely unpopular among the population as a whole, including independents. The split between Republicans, Democrats and Independents as a percentage of total population is roughly equal. The only group that is more against abortion than they are for it are white evangelical protestants and conservative republicans.

Groypercacas aren’t gonna like this one.

HVITZILQPQCHTLI (SWT) IS WINNING

Obsessed shit@li@n brimstone

 

[DonutHole]

HVITZILQPQCHTLI (SWT) IS WINNING

Real. A recent study done by the research institute of trukes found that a staggering 99.99% of US Latinos secretly or openly worship the Blue Tezcatlipoca. Furthermore, an astonishing 79% practice human sacrifice.

 

[sodack]

If it’s an incest rape baby, I think it’s okay long a the abortion occurs very early on in the pregnancy. But realistically, most people who get abortions aren’t having incest rape babies. If you don’t want to have kids you should have the forethought to either not have sex or use a condom.

Illegal in most all cases except if it is a dead baby that will kill the mother

Abortion is an entirely separate process from removal of an ectopic pregnancy.

 

[Robert F. Kennedy Jr.]

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[MoonMetropolis]

Even most conservative pundits begrudgingly admit that the abortion issue is a losing issue for them and that a nationwide ban on abortion is unattainable, to say the least, as, quite frankly, very few people are actually concerned about the wellbeing of early trimester fetal tissue anymore. At the state level, the religious right have, unfortunately, made some considerable efforts to chip away at abortion rights, but banning abortion nationwide is, again, just an Evangelical wet dream. GOPers will always promise to put an end to abortion because they know that they will continue to get votes by making such empty promises, but then they won't actually do shit about abortion because, if they did, then what? I suppose that they can still threaten to lock up the gays and kick the brown folks out, but abortion is something that Evangelicals are much more passionate about than anything else and, since it's purely emotional from their side, they can be easily swayed by it. It's the classic carrot on a stick effect.

Plus, if abortion ever were criminalized at the national level, then how would Evangelical women abort their uncle/daddy's fetus or their boyfriend's fetus to cover up their "sin and degeneracy"? After all, a large percentage of the women who get abortions are Evangelicals and Catholics.

Not to mention, if abortion were outlawed, it would just create a huge demand for dangerous back-alley abortions on the black market. Roe v. Wade wasn't the beginning of abortion in America by any means. It was just the end of women dying from abortion in America. Conservatives always point out that, if guns were outlawed, it wouldn't stop people from obtaining guns (which is correct), but they can never apply that same logic to all of the things that they want outlawed.

As I've said before, abortion is the carrot that keeps Evangelicals voting again their own best interests. After all, who gives a damn about the economy, foreign policy, or civil rights, just as long as there's a tiny hope that we can save fetuses?

I used to be a pro-lifer, but I gradually came to the realization that a clump of fetal tissue is not a person, and that outlawing abortion would only create a huge demand for dangerous back-alley abortions on the black market. Banning abortion would be about as effective as banning drugs has been. With that said, if you're having an abortion in your third trimester, that's a different story entirely. At that point, the fetus is viable and, as such, it's no longer just a part of the woman's body. But abortions done after the third trimester are almost always done for medical necessity, despite what conservatives say. At that point, the pregnancies are usually wanted, but have to be terminated because the fetus is dead/dying or the mom will end up dead.

 

[evandoe]

Allow it for rape victims

 

[Mooney]

Even most conservative pundits begrudgingly admit that the abortion issue is a losing issue for them and that a nationwide ban on abortion is unattainable, to say the least, as, quite frankly, very few people are actually concerned about the wellbeing of early trimester fetal tissue anymore. At the state level, the religious right have, unfortunately, made some considerable efforts to chip away at abortion rights, but banning abortion nationwide is, again, just an Evangelical wet dream. GOPers will always promise to put an end to abortion because they know that they will continue to get votes by making such empty promises, but then they won't actually do shit about abortion because, if they did, then what? I suppose that they can still threaten to lock up the gays and kick the brown folks out, but abortion is something that Evangelicals are much more passionate about than anything else and, since it's purely emotional from their side, they can be easily swayed by it. It's the classic carrot on a stick effect.

Plus, if abortion ever were criminalized at the national level, then how would Evangelical women abort their uncle/daddy's fetus or their boyfriend's fetus to cover up their "sin and degeneracy"? After all, a large percentage of the women who get abortions are Evangelicals and Catholics.

Not to mention, if abortion were outlawed, it would just create a huge demand for dangerous back-alley abortions on the black market. Roe v. Wade wasn't the beginning of abortion in America by any means. It was just the end of women dying from abortion in America. Conservatives always point out that, if guns were outlawed, it wouldn't stop people from obtaining guns (which is correct), but they can never apply that same logic to all of the things that they want outlawed.

As I've said before, abortion is the carrot that keeps Evangelicals voting again their own best interests. After all, who gives a damn about the economy, foreign policy, or civil rights, just as long as there's a tiny hope that we can save fetuses?

I used to be a pro-lifer, but I gradually came to the realization that a clump of fetal tissue is not a person, and that outlawing abortion would only create a huge demand for dangerous back-alley abortions on the black market. Banning abortion would be about as effective as banning drugs has been. With that said, if you're having an abortion in your third trimester, that's a different story entirely. At that point, the fetus is viable and, as such, it's no longer just a part of the woman's body. But abortions done after the third trimester are almost always done for medical necessity, despite what conservatives say. At that point, the pregnancies are usually wanted, but have to be terminated because the fetus is dead/dying or the mom will end up dead.

im pro life

 

[Mooney]

Allow it for rape victims

the baby should not pay for the sins of the father all life is precious and should be protected cause god wanted that baby to happen

 

[Pepsilord]

Even most conservative pundits begrudgingly admit that the abortion issue is a losing issue for them and that a nationwide ban on abortion is unattainable, to say the least, as, quite frankly, very few people are actually concerned about the wellbeing of early trimester fetal tissue anymore. At the state level, the religious right have, unfortunately, made some considerable efforts to chip away at abortion rights, but banning abortion nationwide is, again, just an Evangelical wet dream. GOPers will always promise to put an end to abortion because they know that they will continue to get votes by making such empty promises, but then they won't actually do shit about abortion because, if they did, then what? I suppose that they can still threaten to lock up the gays and kick the brown folks out, but abortion is something that Evangelicals are much more passionate about than anything else and, since it's purely emotional from their side, they can be easily swayed by it. It's the classic carrot on a stick effect.

Plus, if abortion ever were criminalized at the national level, then how would Evangelical women abort their uncle/daddy's fetus or their boyfriend's fetus to cover up their "sin and degeneracy"? After all, a large percentage of the women who get abortions are Evangelicals and Catholics.

Not to mention, if abortion were outlawed, it would just create a huge demand for dangerous back-alley abortions on the black market. Roe v. Wade wasn't the beginning of abortion in America by any means. It was just the end of women dying from abortion in America. Conservatives always point out that, if guns were outlawed, it wouldn't stop people from obtaining guns (which is correct), but they can never apply that same logic to all of the things that they want outlawed.

As I've said before, abortion is the carrot that keeps Evangelicals voting again their own best interests. After all, who gives a damn about the economy, foreign policy, or civil rights, just as long as there's a tiny hope that we can save fetuses?

I used to be a pro-lifer, but I gradually came to the realization that a clump of fetal tissue is not a person, and that outlawing abortion would only create a huge demand for dangerous back-alley abortions on the black market. Banning abortion would be about as effective as banning drugs has been. With that said, if you're having an abortion in your third trimester, that's a different story entirely. At that point, the fetus is viable and, as such, it's no longer just a part of the woman's body. But abortions done after the third trimester are almost always done for medical necessity, despite what conservatives say. At that point, the pregnancies are usually wanted, but have to be terminated because the fetus is dead/dying or the mom will end up dead.

>People actually risk killing themselves through shady back alley abortions because they can't fucking keep it in their pants
Shut this shitty species down already dawg

 

[MoonMetropolis]

>People actually risk killing themselves through shady back alley abortions because they can't fucking keep it in their pants
Shut this shitty species down already dawg

Or because they've been raped and don't want to carry their attacker's baby. Women get abortions for a number of reasons, and the government has no business telling women what they can do with their own bodies.

 

[Fortuna]

Or because they've been raped and don't want to carry their attacker's baby. Women get abortions for a number of reasons, and the government has no business telling women what they can do with their own bodies.

Yeah. Did you ask the baby about what you're going to do to its body?

 

[Fagon]

>the government has no business telling women what they can do with their own bodies.

 

[MoonMetropolis]

Yeah. Did you ask the baby about what you're going to do to its body?

A non-viable clump of cells in a woman's uterus isn't a baby.

>the government has no business telling women what they can do with their own bodies.

Sorry, but your argument fails because you forgot to include a smug anime face.

 

[Fortuna]

A non-viable clump of cells in a woman's uterus isn't a baby.

Yeah it is.

 

[Fagon]

>A non-viable clump of cells in a woman's uterus isn't a baby.

 

[MoonMetropolis]

Yeah it is.

No, it isn't. It cannot survive outside of the woman's body. Fetuses don't generally become viable until 24 weeks of gestation.

 

[Fortuna]

No, it isn't. It cannot survive outside of the woman's body. Fetuses don't generally become viable until 24 weeks of gestation.

That doesn't make it not a baby. A preemie also has trouble surviving without artificial support but it's still a baby.

 

[Fagon]

josh stop giving me those reacts you are LOWERING my reddit karma.

 

[MoonMetropolis]

That doesn't make it not a baby. A preemie also has trouble surviving without artificial support but it's still a baby.

A preemie can survive outside of a woman's body. An early trimester clump of fetal tissue cannot. It is not possible for it to develop outside of a uterus.