how is assisted suicide bad?

[Oot]

By that logic if a girl cuts herself for no reason you should praise herself because now she has voluntarily caused herself suffering for no reason and that is somehow a good thing. Stupid nigger I hate all of you! I want you all to suffer and die!

Shut up bitch boi

Don't make me rock your shit

 

[DOLL]

By that logic if a girl cuts herself for no reason you should praise herself because now she has voluntarily caused herself suffering for no reason and that is somehow a good thing. Stupid

Self-harm is intentionally causing harm to yourself. Which is in the same vein as suicide (me cause harm to self = me feel good[endorphins are proof I am feel good dood] = me think this good idea). Dood I cut myself and it feel good, dat mean kill self and feel mega good !

 

[WH15KeY]

Suffering is absolutely a virtue. Someone goes through hell and comes out the other end and you tell me that the suffering was pointless? You are telling a funny joke. People suffer and they get fucked up because of it, but martyrs for any cause are respected because they go through something you or I would never go through. A life is all you have in this world. You are born between piss and shit to come out in the world and you end it in whatever way comes to you or you see fit. But to give it up for some gay reason like "the pain just be hurtin too much" is gay. Most of the freaks who choose that way to go out (Canada I am looking at you) don't even have a physical ailment and it doubles as an excuse for the next guy to go out.
"Mang, my girlfriend, she dont be love me.... I gotta blow the brains out" shut the hell up faggot and grow up.

I agree to an extent, but the rest of what you say just seems needlessly edgy. Are we truly so naive as to believe every human life can be one worth living? Simply a statistical analysis would prove this to be false. I will say assisted suicide opens up a can of worms which could lead to the vulnerable being taken advantage of.

What we have in the USA is fine for now... those who want to kill themselves will do it anyway.

 

[dataminedandproud]

i think anyone who wants to kill themselves should be locked up in insane asylums

 

[(In)CelibatePsycho]

Self-harm is intentionally causing harm to yourself. Which is in the same vein as suicide (me cause harm to self = me feel good[endorphins are proof I am feel good dood] = me think this good idea). Dood I cut myself and it feel good, dat mean kill self and feel mega good !

I doubt cutting yourself feels good. Maybe after it feels a little good, like how you feel a bit good after a marathon but during it you feel terrible. Same thing really, either way you destroy your body for no reason and suffer for so reason.

And even if it does feel good, so what? Good things are only bad if they have some bad result - like how eating goyslop will fuck you up. But if suicide only has upsides and living only has downsides, there is no reason not to kill yourself.

To shame someone for not wanting to suffer for no reason is not virtuous or manly, it is immature and retarded.

 

[WH15KeY]

@DOLL

You are using a strawman. Of course most of us would agree some man wanting to kill himself over something as trivial as unrequited love would be silly. What about the disabled who can never find happiness? The terminally ill, those in poverty, those with no family.

 

[DOLL]

I agree to an extent, but the rest of what you say just seems needlessly edgy. Are we truly so naive as to believe every human life can be one worth living.

The rest of what you said is gay nihilistic fap material and not worth responding to.
If a retard can say "Yes, I am happy to be alive" then who the hell are you to say that their life isn't worth living? You aren't God, you aren't in their shoes. They are happy with the things this world can offer them and the salvation this world can not give them. Why are you presupposing their wants and needs?

 

[(In)CelibatePsycho]

The rest of what you said is gay nihilistic fap material and not worth responding to.
If a retard can say "Yes, I am happy to be alive" then who the hell are you to say that their life isn't worth living? You aren't God, you aren't in their shoes. They are happy with the things this world can offer them and the salvation this world can not give them. Why are you presupposing their wants and needs?

Are you retarded? We are talking about when someone WANTS to kill themselves. No one said we should go around murdering happy people because we would be unhappy in their shoes.

 

[(In)CelibatePsycho]

Are you retarded? We are talking about when someone WANTS to kill themselves. No one said we should go around murdering happy people because we would be unhappy in their shoes.

I know he’s probably baiting but I still hate him

 

[DOLL]

What about the disabled who can never find happiness? The terminally ill, those in poverty, those with no family.

Again you are presupposing those people cannot find happiness. Those of you of a leftward-bent that want to talk about privilege, here is your prime example. A healthy adult male who says that because you are poor, disabled, or ill, you cannot be happy. You need to kill yourself because it validates his world view. Your life has no meaning because you cannot possibly be happy without a smart phone, unlimited internet access, and a community that is dedicated to seeing you ascend past these misfortunes to your true self on the other side. Fuck off.

 

[WH15KeY]

The rest of what you said is gay nihilistic fap material and not worth responding to.
If a retard can say "Yes, I am happy to be alive" then who the hell are you to say that their life isn't worth living? You aren't God, you aren't in their shoes. They are happy with the things this world can offer them and the salvation this world can not give them. Why are you presupposing their wants and needs?

If a "retard" wants to live his life, more power to him. I am obviously speaking for those who wish to not remain on this earth. Nothing about what I said is nihilistic. And well, I suspect it is not gay either. When I say "worth living" I am speaking in regards to how they feel.

 

[Oot]

If a "retard" wants to live his life, more power to him. I am obviously speaking for those who wish to not remain on this earth. Nothing about what I said is nihilistic. And well, I suspect it is not gay either. When I say "worth living" I am speaking in regards to how they feel.

Feelings aren't always rational thoughbeit, we can't solely use them to determine whether something is right or wrong.

 

[WH15KeY]

I know he’s probably baiting but I still hate him

I don't think he is baiting... Well if he is, hahaha. Nice work I suppose. But, I think DOLL likes to misinterpret what users say when they do not agree with him.

 

[WH15KeY]

Feelings aren't always rational thoughbeit, we can't solely use them to determine whether something is right or wrong.

I would agree... which is why I would probably stick with not allowing assisted suicide. If someone wants to kill themselves, they will surely find a way.

 

[(In)CelibatePsycho]

Feelings aren't always rational thoughbeit, we can't solely use them to determine whether something is right or wrong.

So we should solely use our own judgement to decide if someone should live or not? How is that better than letting them consider their feelings and circumstances and make the decision on their own?

 

[Oot]

So we should solely use our own judgement to decide if someone should live or not? How is that better than letting them consider their feelings and circumstances and make the decision on their own?

No, we use heckin' objective morality from God. No point in talking about that with Godless people thoughbeit. Do you think that assisted suicide is bad?

 

[WH15KeY]

Again you are presupposing those people cannot find happiness. Those of you of a leftward-bent that want to talk about privilege, here is your prime example. A healthy adult male who says that because you are poor, disabled, or ill, you cannot be happy. You need to kill yourself because it validates his world view. Your life has no meaning because you cannot possibly be happy without a smart phone, unlimited internet access, and a community that is dedicated to seeing you ascend past these misfortunes to your true self on the other side. Fuck off.

Also, banter is not calling someone a faggot over and over. It has to be clever. You are just sperging out on us for no reason. I think you have more in common with "the left" than you realize.

 

[DOLL]

So we should solely use our own judgement to decide if someone should live or not? How is that better than letting them consider their feelings and circumstances and make the decision on their own?

Someone willing to kill themselves is not thinking in a rational state of mind.

 

[baqqrih]

I think the ultimate division here is that the people who think lives can be immediately expended if the mind living them decides it's too much suffering are people who don't see the inherent, God-ordained value of the soul within the person, or they don't even believe that souls as a concept of life exist, while the other side that's against assisted suicide does believe in such a concept of inherent, God-given value to every life. I personally think it's selfish to kill yourself because it's the ultimate rejection of all God's given you; not only are you rejecting His gift of eternal salvation and hope, but you're also rejecting the gift of life He originally gave you so that He could then share more of His blessings, but I know I'm not changing any non-believer's idea of life by saying that, since our entire worldviews that contribute to the concept of value to life are what ultimately determine such an idea, and our views of the whole of existence are very firm things, very hard to shift around or replace.

 

[baqqrih]

I think the ultimate division here is that the people who think lives can be immediately expended if the mind living them decides it's too much suffering are people who don't see the inherent, God-ordained value of the soul within the person, or even believe that souls as a concept of life exist, while the other side that's against assisted suicide does believe in such a concept of inherent, God-given value to every life. I personally think it's selfish to kill yourself because it's the ultimate rejection of all God's given you; not only are you rejecting His gift of eternal salvation and hope, but you're also rejecting the gift of life He originally gave you so that He could then share more of His blessings, but I know I'm not changing any non-believer's idea of life by saying that, since our entire worldviews that contribute to the concept of value to life are what ultimately determine such an idea, and our views of the whole of existence are very firm things, very hard to shift around or replace.

Hahaha the word "self-ish" turns into the little SLF