Discussion Future of the Catholic Church?

_account said:
The Catholic church is dead, it's lost all power and respect thank God. They've slandered Christianity for long enough.
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whats the difference between catholics, orthodox, protestants and evangelics and why do they all hate eachother
no im not looking it up
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UendeligKamp said:
Why?
Personally I feel this morality of our age do what you want so long as you dont harm others is worse.
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The bulk of all oppression in human history has been carried out by Christians, Jews, and Muslims, and it was carried out in the name of their religions. The worst thing that one can point to Pagans doing in the name of their religion is human sacrifice - and even that ended centuries ago, while Christians, Jews, and Muslims still carry out the bulk of all oppression. Abrahamic religion is, without a shadow of a doubt, the single worst scourge this species has ever had, and it is only through selective cherry-picking, denial, and rewriting of history that one can possibly claim otherwise.

The God depicted in the Bible killed more people than every single human dictator combined (in fact, the Christian God kills everyone on the planet at one point), and the Bible contains numerous passages like these:

"Take your son, your only son - yes, Isaac, whom you love so much - and go to the land of Moriah. Sacrifice him there as a burnt offering on one of the mountains, which I will point out to you." (Genesis 22:1-18)

"Consecrate to me every first-born that opens the womb among Israelites, both man and beast, for it belongs to me." (Exodus 13:2)

"Note also that any one of his possessions which a man vows as doomed to the Lord, whether it is a human being or an animal, or a hereditary field, shall be neither sold nor ransomed; everything that is thus doomed becomes most sacred to the Lord. All human beings that are doomed lose the right to be redeemed; they must be put to death." (Leviticus 27:28-29)

"Anyone arrogant enough to reject the verdict of the judge or of the priest who represents the LORD your God must be put to death. Such evil must be purged from Israel." (Deuteronomy 17:12 NLT)

"You should not let a sorceress live." (Exodus 22:17 NAB)

"All who curse their father or mother must be put to death. They are guilty of a capital offense." (Leviticus 20:9 NLT)

"If a man commits adultery with another man's wife, both the man and the woman must be put to death." (Leviticus 20:10 NLT)

"A priest's daughter who loses her honor by committing fornication and thereby dishonors her father also, shall be burned to death." (Leviticus 21:9 NAB)

"However, you may purchase male or female slaves from among the foreigners who live among you. You may also purchase the children of such resident foreigners, including those who have been born in your land. You may treat them as your property, passing them on to your children as a permanent inheritance. You may treat your slaves like this, but the people of Israel, your relatives, must never be treated this way." (Leviticus 25:44-46 NLT)

...and that's not even scraping the surface. Abrahamic religion has done more to utterly destroy the concept of all lives having value than any other ideology ever has.

I also fail to see how "do what you want so long as you don't harm others" can possibly be more harmful than Abrahamic morality, which is nothing but self-hating slave mentality that aims to suppress and destroy everything that makes us human. It's been thousands of years and Abrahamic religion still has not changed human nature - and it never will. All that Abrahamic religion has done has been to provide a convenient justification for the worst aspects of human nature while violently forbidding anything that might actually make life worth living.

If religion didn't exist, humans would just find something else to justify their intrinsically evil and violent nature. But, as it stands, religion (and especially Abrahamic religion) is the #1 force for human evil without a doubt.
 
ScientoloJĆ¼ said:
whats the difference between catholics, orthodox, protestants and evangelics and why do they all hate eachother
no im not looking it up
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Catholics are the "original" church. basically the one that has had all of the power until the Orthodox split and reformation. they follow a papacy and focus heavily on "tradition". Orthodoxy is basically the same but more eastern and they don't believe in the papacy, they also see humans as addicted to sins rather than guilty of sins... also some shit about the holy spirit and the immaculate conception, idk i need to look into it more.
Protestantism started with Martin Luther and his split from the catholic church, he was especially sickened by the selling of indulgences, corruption, and practices which he thought contradicted the principles of Christianity. He posted his 95 theses in Wittenberg, they were then copied and posted all throughout Europe which started the Protestant reformation, he was excommunicated after this.
Protestantism focuses more on faith than tradition and sees scripture as the ultimate authority. They believe faith alone saves rather than good deeds, there is more of a focus on a direct relationship with God rather than venerating saints and Mary, Catholics have 7 sacraments while Protestants only have 2, Protestant usually eucharists are symbolic rather than the literal body and blood of Jesus Christ.
There are tons branches of Protestantism which lead to things like the dismissal or approval of ideas like purgatory, Evangelicals are just another form of Protestant. There are some faggy liberal branches but most of them are true to God's word.
 
MoonMetropolis said:
The bulk of all oppression in human history has been carried out by Christians, Jews, and Muslims, and it was carried out in the name of their religions. The worst thing that one can point to Pagans doing in the name of their religion is human sacrifice - and even that ended centuries ago, while Christians, Jews, and Muslims still carry out the bulk of all oppression. Abrahamic religion is, without a shadow of a doubt, the single worst scourge this species has ever had, and it is only through selective cherry-picking, denial, and rewriting of history that one can possibly claim otherwise.

The God depicted in the Bible killed more people than every single human dictator combined (in fact, the Christian God kills everyone on the planet at one point), and the Bible contains numerous passages like these:

"Take your son, your only son - yes, Isaac, whom you love so much - and go to the land of Moriah. Sacrifice him there as a burnt offering on one of the mountains, which I will point out to you." (Genesis 22:1-18)

"Consecrate to me every first-born that opens the womb among Israelites, both man and beast, for it belongs to me." (Exodus 13:2)

"Note also that any one of his possessions which a man vows as doomed to the Lord, whether it is a human being or an animal, or a hereditary field, shall be neither sold nor ransomed; everything that is thus doomed becomes most sacred to the Lord. All human beings that are doomed lose the right to be redeemed; they must be put to death." (Leviticus 27:28-29)

"Anyone arrogant enough to reject the verdict of the judge or of the priest who represents the LORD your God must be put to death. Such evil must be purged from Israel." (Deuteronomy 17:12 NLT)

"You should not let a sorceress live." (Exodus 22:17 NAB)

"All who curse their father or mother must be put to death. They are guilty of a capital offense." (Leviticus 20:9 NLT)

"If a man commits adultery with another man's wife, both the man and the woman must be put to death." (Leviticus 20:10 NLT)

"A priest's daughter who loses her honor by committing fornication and thereby dishonors her father also, shall be burned to death." (Leviticus 21:9 NAB)

"However, you may purchase male or female slaves from among the foreigners who live among you. You may also purchase the children of such resident foreigners, including those who have been born in your land. You may treat them as your property, passing them on to your children as a permanent inheritance. You may treat your slaves like this, but the people of Israel, your relatives, must never be treated this way." (Leviticus 25:44-46 NLT)

...and that's not even scraping the surface. Abrahamic religion has done more to utterly destroy the concept of all lives having value than any other ideology ever has.

I also fail to see how "do what you want so long as you don't harm others" can possibly be more harmful than Abrahamic morality, which is nothing but self-hating slave mentality that aims to suppress and destroy everything that makes us human. It's been thousands of years and Abrahamic religion still has not changed human nature - and it never will. All that Abrahamic religion has done has been to provide a convenient justification for the worst aspects of human nature while violently forbidding anything that might actually make life worth living.

If religion didn't exist, humans would just find something else to justify their intrinsically evil and violent nature. But, as it stands, religion (and especially Abrahamic religion) is the #1 force for human evil without a doubt.
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>The bulk of all oppression in human history has been carried out by Christians, Jews, and Muslims, and it was carried out in the name of their religions. The worst thing that one can point to Pagans doing in the name of their religion is human sacrifice - and even that ended centuries ago, while Christians, Jews, and Muslims still carry out the bulk of all oppression. Abrahamic religion is, without a shadow of a doubt, the single worst scourge this species has ever had, and it is only through selective cherry-picking, denial, and rewriting of history that one can possibly claim otherwise
Yeah, because the Romans didn't kill millions to expand their empire, because pagans never infought and sacrificed each other to their gods. You speak of cherry picking but then single out abrahamic religions as the "scourge" of this species.
>Take your son, your only son - yes, Isaac, whom you love so much - and go to the land of Moriah. Sacrifice him there as a burnt offering on one of the mountains, which I will point out to you.
Isaac was never killed, it was a test of devotion.
>Consecrate to me every first-born that opens the womb among Israelites, both man and beast, for it belongs to me.
Symbolises how they're now apart of God's covenant and are now sacred.
>Note also that any one of his possessions which a man vows as doomed to the Lord, whether it is a human being or an animal, or a hereditary field, shall be neither sold nor ransomed; everything that is thus doomed becomes most sacred to the Lord. All human beings that are doomed lose the right to be redeemed; they must be put to death.
Posessions devoted to the Lord cannot be taken back.
>Anyone arrogant enough to reject the verdict of the judge or of the priest who represents the LORD your God must be put to death. Such evil must be purged from Israel.
Meant to maintain God's authority and order within the holy land.
>You should not let a sorceress live.
Practicing witchcraft threatens the covenant.
>All who curse their father or mother must be put to death. They are guilty of a capital offense.
Respect your parents/elders.
>If a man commits adultery with another man's wife, both the man and the woman must be put to death.
Don't cheat and break your covenant with your partner.
>A priest's daughter who loses her honor by committing fornication and thereby dishonors her father also, shall be burned to death.
This statute only applies to married daughters, read above.
>However, you may purchase male or female slaves from among the foreigners who live among you. You may also purchase the children of such resident foreigners, including those who have been born in your land. You may treat them as your property, passing them on to your children as a permanent inheritance. You may treat your slaves like this, but the people of Israel, your relatives, must never be treated this way.
Biblical slavery isn't the same as chattel slavery, it's similar to indentured servitude. Which they also had in Rome.
>...and that's not even scraping the surface. Abrahamic religion has done more to utterly destroy the concept of all lives having value than any other ideology ever has.
Such as forbidding human sacrifice and the murder of unborn babies? What the fuck are you even talking about? meaningless point.
>I also fail to see how "do what you want so long as you don't harm others" can possibly be more harmful than Abrahamic morality, which is nothing but self-hating slave mentality that aims to suppress and destroy everything that makes us human. It's been thousands of years and Abrahamic religion still has not changed human nature - and it never will.
Abrahamic morality isn't self-hating, except maybe in Islam. We are created in the image and likeness of God, we are so loved that God would even take the burden and painfully sacrifice himself so we could be free. How does it suppress and destroy everything that makes us human? Because we can't cheat on each other? Because we can't rape and murder without consequence? Because we can't sacrifice each other anymore? Nothing can change human nature, we are all born sinners and will most likely die with some sin, but we can also change how we act in accordance to God's will, which will lead us to a fruitful life.
>All that Abrahamic religion has done has been to provide a convenient justification for the worst aspects of human nature while violently forbidding anything that might actually make life worth living.
What makes life worth living to you? That's a completely subjective. Retarded.
>If religion didn't exist, humans would just find something else to justify their intrinsically evil and violent nature. But, as it stands, religion (and especially Abrahamic religion) is the #1 force for human evil without a doubt.
Oh okay, so everything you said was horseshit because we would all be evil and fucked up anyways. I think the #1 force for evil is a desire for power or just a hatred of humanity.
Weirdly enough you only used the Old Testament for your quotes.
 
Erblicken said:
>The bulk of all oppression in human history has been carried out by Christians, Jews, and Muslims, and it was carried out in the name of their religions. The worst thing that one can point to Pagans doing in the name of their religion is human sacrifice - and even that ended centuries ago, while Christians, Jews, and Muslims still carry out the bulk of all oppression. Abrahamic religion is, without a shadow of a doubt, the single worst scourge this species has ever had, and it is only through selective cherry-picking, denial, and rewriting of history that one can possibly claim otherwise
Yeah, because the Romans didn't kill millions to expand their empire, because pagans never infought and sacrificed each other to their gods. You speak of cherry picking but then single out abrahamic religions as the "scourge" of this species.
>Take your son, your only son - yes, Isaac, whom you love so much - and go to the land of Moriah. Sacrifice him there as a burnt offering on one of the mountains, which I will point out to you.
Isaac was never killed, it was a test of devotion.
>Consecrate to me every first-born that opens the womb among Israelites, both man and beast, for it belongs to me.
Symbolises how they're now apart of God's covenant and are now sacred.
>Note also that any one of his possessions which a man vows as doomed to the Lord, whether it is a human being or an animal, or a hereditary field, shall be neither sold nor ransomed; everything that is thus doomed becomes most sacred to the Lord. All human beings that are doomed lose the right to be redeemed; they must be put to death.
Posessions devoted to the Lord cannot be taken back.
>Anyone arrogant enough to reject the verdict of the judge or of the priest who represents the LORD your God must be put to death. Such evil must be purged from Israel.
Meant to maintain God's authority and order within the holy land.
>You should not let a sorceress live.
Practicing witchcraft threatens the covenant.
>All who curse their father or mother must be put to death. They are guilty of a capital offense.
Respect your parents/elders.
>If a man commits adultery with another man's wife, both the man and the woman must be put to death.
Don't cheat and break your covenant with your partner.
>A priest's daughter who loses her honor by committing fornication and thereby dishonors her father also, shall be burned to death.
This statute only applies to married daughters, read above.
>However, you may purchase male or female slaves from among the foreigners who live among you. You may also purchase the children of such resident foreigners, including those who have been born in your land. You may treat them as your property, passing them on to your children as a permanent inheritance. You may treat your slaves like this, but the people of Israel, your relatives, must never be treated this way.
Biblical slavery isn't the same as chattel slavery, it's similar to indentured servitude. Which they also had in Rome.
>...and that's not even scraping the surface. Abrahamic religion has done more to utterly destroy the concept of all lives having value than any other ideology ever has.
Such as forbidding human sacrifice and the murder of unborn babies? What the fuck are you even talking about? meaningless point.
>I also fail to see how "do what you want so long as you don't harm others" can possibly be more harmful than Abrahamic morality, which is nothing but self-hating slave mentality that aims to suppress and destroy everything that makes us human. It's been thousands of years and Abrahamic religion still has not changed human nature - and it never will.
Abrahamic morality isn't self-hating, except maybe in Islam. We are created in the image and likeness of God, we are so loved that God would even take the burden and painfully sacrifice himself so we could be free. How does it suppress and destroy everything that makes us human? Because we can't cheat on each other? Because we can't rape and murder without consequence? Because we can't sacrifice each other anymore? Nothing can change human nature, we are all born sinners and will most likely die with some sin, but we can also change how we act in accordance to God's will, which will lead us to a fruitful life.
>All that Abrahamic religion has done has been to provide a convenient justification for the worst aspects of human nature while violently forbidding anything that might actually make life worth living.
What makes life worth living to you? That's a completely subjective. Retarded.
>If religion didn't exist, humans would just find something else to justify their intrinsically evil and violent nature. But, as it stands, religion (and especially Abrahamic religion) is the #1 force for human evil without a doubt.
Oh okay, so everything you said was horseshit because we would all be evil and fucked up anyways. I think the #1 force for evil is a desire for power or just a hatred of humanity.
Weirdly enough you only used the Old Testament for your quotes.
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I love how, when you rephrased and summarized those Old Testament passages, you conveniently left out the murderous parts. And then threw in something about abortion, the carrot-on-a-stick that keeps Evangelical retards voting against their own best interests. Burning adulterers is fine, but terminating a clump of fetal tissue warrants death. Abrahamic morality at its finest.

The God of the Bible is the single most evil character in all of fiction. God kills 70,000 innocent people because David ordered a census of the people (1 Chronicles 21). God also orders the destruction of 60 cities so that the Israelites can live there. He orders the killing of all the men, women, and children of each city, and the looting of all of value (Deuteronomy 3). He orders another attack and the killing of all the living creatures of the city: men and women, young, and old, as well as oxen sheep, and asses (Joshua 6). In Judges 21, he orders the murder of all the people of Jabesh-gilead, except for the virgin girls who were taken to be forcibly raped and married. When they wanted more virgins, God told them to hide alongside the road and, when they saw a girl they liked, kidnap her and forcibly rape her and make her their wife.

Just about every other page in the Old Testament has God killing somebody. In 2 Kings 10:18-27, God orders the murder of all the worshipers of a different god in their very own church. In total, God kills 371,186 people directly and orders another 1,862,265 people murdered.

The God of the Bible also allows slavery, including selling your own daughter as a sex slave (Exodus 21:1-11), child abuse (Judges 11:29-40 & Isaiah 13:16), and bashing babies against rocks (Hosea 13:16 & Psalms 137:9). The God of the Bible also was a big fan of ritual human sacrifice and animal sacrifice. The Bible, especially the Old Testament, is filled with numerous stories of animal and human sacrifice. God, we are told, likes the pleasing aroma of burning flesh. Animal sacrifice is much more common than human sacrifice, but both occur and are "pleasing to the Lord".

And yes, the laws of the Old Testament are still in effect. Jesus makes it perfectly clear: "It is easier for Heaven and Earth to pass away than for the smallest part of the letter of the law to become invalid (Luke 16:17)."

Jesus also promoted the idea that all men should castrate themselves to go to heaven: "For there are eunuchs, that were so born from their motherā€™s womb: and there are eunuchs, that were made eunuchs by men: and there are eunuchs, that made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heavenā€™s sake. He that is able to receive it, let him receive it (Matthew 19:12)." If that isn't self-hating slave mentality, then I really don't know what is.

Of course humans are always going to be evil and fucked up, but nothing has fueled that evil throughout history more than Abrahamic religion has.
 
NigKiller_Tojo said:
(((christian groups))) are massive supporters of subhuman criminal rapefugees. it's disgusting how they push the jew agenda while pretending to be "moral"
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(((christianity))) was always about kneeling to the jews. i mean come on, they literally worship one.
 
Sneedson said:
Christianity is anti-white globohomo.
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The idol of racialism is a plentiful source of mortal pride, but immortal salvation will not be found with it as one's sole guidance in this life. It is unwise to "toss out the baby with the bathwater" because of the historical crimes of the heretical Roman Catholics. I see plenty of people fall for this error, of abandoning their God in viewing human sin. My heart aches at these sights.
A number of Negroes, Aryans, and all other folk doom themselves to scorching hellfire by clinging onto the hand of their race in reverence over the hand of The Christ--as if they are like a child holding the hand of a father made from wood--and they both doom their surrounding racial brethren to these same flames by clinging to the elimination of the idea of race as a god, on the other end of this "spectrum," as the Roman Catholics have, for that also only leads to similar troubles and an eventual rejection of Christ entirely.
The divisions and differences of ethnic race are an observable fact of the world, and love is an intangible blessing of God that our mortality must be faced with. This is why Paul makes the very distinction between the Jews and the Greeks in his Epistle to the Galatians when he speaks of salvation's universality with the "neither Jew nor Greek" statement. Different peoples exist, and The Lord's love may extend to them all.
Hence, in the Lord Jesus' words, "love your neighbor as yourself," for, to grant peace to the folk of a land like America (thus to show them love by granting them peace), just as you would for yourself and your own race, the creation of separate areas of inhabitance for other races must ideally be considered. I emphasize "ideally" in such a statement because the reemergence of segregation in these last days of the world is a theoretical fantasy that will never actually come to fruition, but the idea of it as the ideal solution is the result of an analysis of modern race relations in the eyes of my Christianity. As such, no one seeking truth should interpret the true religion of the world as a Roman Catholic one.
 
Noah said:
I'm not a groyper they're gay and retarded so don't associate me with that guy.
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I'm not a groyper I was just given this name and I claimed it

Also yeah Vatican II suckkkks
But Mary's Immaculate Heart will triumph anyway
 
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