Discussion Future of the Catholic Church?

[Zuse]

I think I've already stated my opinion on this, but numbers, at least sociologically and psychologically have weight to me.
Again, if a god claims that he is universal, and that his religion is universal, and that salvation passes ONLY through faith in him and his religion, if the total number of followers amount to 5, then I doubt it is true. Sure, this is extreme, but the fact that christianity has managed to become the most believed set of truths over the centuries, that the Bible is the most sold and read book in the whole world, to me has SOME weight to it. It doesn't prove shit but it proves to me that there's something functional in it.

 

[Joe Biden]

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This to me is talking about asceticism, not numbers of believers. meaning that the path of the christian is a path of rejection of the workd and of worldly passions, which is a narrow and hard path.
If that was the case, you'd be forced to believe that christianity and/or salvation can only be attributed to a minority of people on earth, which is to me absurd.

 

[KingCargo]

The future will entail feces and those with swarthy skin passing away.

 

[_account]

If you are talking about the middle ages, I don't think that it was like that at all.
Peasants were not forced into believing, they believed because that was just the norm of their upbringing, and they had no reason to question it, I don't doubt their salvation because of it. If not I don't get what you're saying. Colonialism ?

I'm saying that catholicism is directly contrary to Christ, the priests and deacons have become the very rabbis and pharasees that conspired against Jesus. The idea of going through a human leader to have a relationship with God is false and cultist.

 

[Joe Biden]

I'm saying that catholicism is directly contrary to Christ, the priests and deacons have become the very rabbis and pharasees that conspired against Jesus. The idea of going through a human leader to have a relationship with God is false and cultist.

Misrepresentation of the doctrine of priesthood in catholicism, orthodoxy, oriental orthodoxy, the Church of the East, anglicanism, armenian apostolic Church and so on and so forth.
Not one of them says that priests are here because humans cannot have a relationship to God without them. Priests exist because they believe that the bread and wine are really Christ, not just metaphorically.

 

[Slvt4BIBISI]

The Catholic church is dead, it's lost all power and respect thank God. They've slandered Christianity for long enough.

Being the biggest religious institution isn’t dead.

 

[4tehlulz]

The status quo will continue I figure, they'll find some vaguely Italian or Spanish old man and make him the new pope or whatever.
Did I mention that I'm protestant!

 

[Noah]

the church will continue to funnel money from poor, stupid browns.
mexicans and closeted homosexuals will continue to larp as le based and tradcath crusaders online.
the church will continue to lose influence as people realize that catholics are all perverted freaks who worship mary.

Yeah that's a possibility, tradlarpers are really gay just look at Fuentes. I've never claimed to be trad. And I've heard too much about the "worship of mary" already.

 

[_account]

Being the biggest religious institution isn’t dead.

The type of people defending Catholicism is proof that it's a lost cause.

 

[Erblicken]

I'm saying that catholicism is directly contrary to Christ, the priests and deacons have become the very rabbis and pharasees that conspired against Jesus. The idea of going through a human leader to have a relationship with God is false and cultist.

Peter never saw himself as a leader. "The elders who are among you I exhort, I who am a fellow elder and a witness of the sufferings of Christ, and also a partaker of the glory that will be revealed"
Christ said that the greatest is a servant, and a servant should follow his example. Greatness doesn't lie in position of power, but humility and service to your fellow person.
The only supreme leader is our Lord, not some man.
The pope is illegitimate and doesn't have any authority over the church what-so-ever.

 

[Joe Biden]

Yeah that's a possibility, tradlarpers are really gay just look at Fuentes. I've never claimed to be trad. And I've heard too much about the "worship of mary" already.

As a protie myself, I'm starting to understand the frustration of catholics who get to hear the same retarded arguments over and over again because of misunderstanding and ignorance of the doctrines and history.
It's the same as saying that protestantism has 33.000 denominations or so. That's completely misunderstanding how communion works in protestantism, which is absurd.

 

[Erblicken]

Yeah that's a possibility, tradlarpers are really gay just look at Fuentes. I've never claimed to be trad. And I've heard too much about the "worship of mary" already.

I'm not sure why you put the worship of mary in quotes, they do. I've heard the argument from catholics that they're only asking mary to "intercede" for them, but having entire prayers dedicated to asking mary to help you and wearing pendants of her isn't interceding. Jesus said to not use vain repetitions like the heathens. These are just chants created during the mid-middle ages.
Why would you need to ask someone else to talk to God for you anyways? He's always readily available. There isn't some power bar that determines which prayers he does and doesn't listen to.

 

[Noah]

As a protie myself, I'm starting to understand the frustration of catholics who get to hear the same retarded arguments over and over again because of misunderstanding and ignorance of the doctrines and history.
It's the same as saying that protestantism has 33.000 denominations or so. That's completely misunderstanding how communion works in protestantism, which is absurd.

This thread wasn't even supposed to be about catholicism being true or not. Idk how it derailed into this. I didn't want to because it's just too much and not worth it. These arguments won't get us anywhere as they've been discussed time and time again.

 

[Joe Biden]

This thread wasn't even supposed to be about catholicism being true or not. Idk how it derailed into this. I didn't want to because it's just too much and not worth it. These arguments won't get us anywhere as they've been discussed time and time again.

Derailing is sharty culture.
Also, while arguments have been talked about and said again and again, still not everyone has been exposed to them.
In the end, no one is able to make a rational choice, this is outside the boundary of our human understanding, but still, not being completely retarded about what exists is a good thing, so exposing the basics is never a bad idea. No need to turn into apologetics.

 

[_account]

Derailing is sharty culture.
Also, while arguments have been talked about and said again and again, still not everyone has been exposed to them.
In the end, no one is able to make a rational choice, this is outside the boundary of our human understanding, but still, not being completely retarded about what exists is a good thing, so exposing the basics is never a bad idea. No need to turn into apologetics.

Apologetics have Stockholm syndrome

 

[Xiuhcoyotl]

about time, they ruined latin america, with the most notable nation being mexico. political leaders knew this and tried to stop the degradation from catholicism.

calles was right.

calles paved the way for a modernized state with land, labor, educational and social reform. he was a major player in industrialization and stabilization after the revolution and the architect of many public works that are still enjoyed today.

the cristeros, and by extension, catholicism, bedevilled mexico.

 

[Xiuhcoyotl]

soygoys?

 

[Dremora]

I think it might recover a bit if the next pope happens to be from Africa. African Catholics are different, they tend to be very devout and fanatical.

 

[MoonMetropolis]

Christianity has slandered Judaism for long enough. It was about time it started dying out.

Judaism, Christianity, and Islam - the three Abrahamic religions - are the worst blights that the human race has ever had. It's long past time for all of them to die out.

 

[Erblicken]

Judaism, Christianity, and Islam - the three Abrahamic religions - are the worst blights that the human race has ever had. It's long past time for all of them to die out.

You live in a Christian society, nearly all first world countries have some Christian influence. Even Richard Dawkins wishes to maintain a culturally Christian England.