Should nato be expanded to include (south)east asian countries, or should america create a separate pacific alliance?

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Since america pivoting from focusing on russia to focusing on china is all but guaranteed, we should probably discuss what to do with asia. As a european I think america should create a separate alliance since we would likely never accept being forced to defend some dnb country on the other side of the world, meaning that only japan would be allowed to join in practice if we tried expanding nato. If america created a new alliance however, countries like south korea, the philippines and possibly india may be able to join as well.

 

[Grinch]

snca

 

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Neither. Not until NATO stops being jewshill ZOGism

 

[1844 or Something]

NATO should conquer SEAmonkeys and the pacific islalalalalalalalands

 

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Neither. Not until NATO stops being jewshill ZOGism

So, how would you secure american interests in the asia pacific region?

 

[ArBcswqnxNobgkdgULRxknEtLw]

NATO should conquer SEAmonkeys and the pacific islalalalalalalalands

If the Japanese managed to do it back then with the IJA, then nothing's stopping the colossal American war machine from setting up a sphere of influence there. Although it'd need a new name.

 

[1844 or Something]

If the Japanese managed to do it back then with the IJA, then nothing's stopping the colossal American war machine from setting up a sphere of influence there. Although it'd need a new name.

4th Reich or something like that, yea

 

[ArBcswqnxNobgkdgULRxknEtLw]

4th Reich or something like that, yea

Replace all the native populations with ethnically superior Americans

 

[265121297]

If the Japanese managed to do it back then with the IJA, then nothing's stopping the colossal American war machine from setting up a sphere of influence there. Although it'd need a new name.

If we ignore the fact that china would start nuking immediately if we tried this, conquering SEA shouldn’t be too difficult for nato.

 

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So, how would you secure american interests in the asia pacific region?

I wouldn't. First I'd deal with the rampant foreign agendas that are within the US right now. Half our state is CCP shills and the other half are zioshills (same thing albeit)

 

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I wouldn't. First I'd deal with the rampant foreign agendas that are within the US right now. Half our state is CCP shills and the other half are zioshills (same thing albeit)

1. While purging spies within the state is important, completely surrendering asia pacific is a really bad idea if you want to fight china.
2. China has a tense relationship with israel right now, they are not on the same side.

 

[StudioCaca]

Im an unironic globalist like genuinly i want the entire to be as rich as us so we need to make the market equal everywhere along with everyone paying taxes rather than just people who arent millionaire/billionaire. Also white people become niggers when they live in poverty the proof is the rust belt and factory towns in general, so i think from this basis that non white people can truely stop acting like niggers if we bring them out of poverty.

 

[ArBcswqnxNobgkdgULRxknEtLw]

everyone paying taxes rather than just people who arent millionaire/billionaire

This pattern mostly happens with billionaires who take advantages of loopholes to prevent paying taxes. But I see your point.

Im an unironic globalist

I heavily disagree with this. One of the main side effects of globalism is the weakening of patriotic tendencies. I think it's important for every citizen to be patriotic (erm... statist fag...).

 

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1. While purging spies within the state is important, completely surrendering asia pacific is a really bad idea if you want to fight china.
2. China has a tense relationship with israel right now, they are not on the same side.

1. If the US were to control asia pacific right now they would make some awful decisions. Look at how many politicians are ultra race traitors and shill for Israel over our own citizens
2. And you see that in how dysfunctional the state is. CCP was first recognized by the kikes doe

 

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Also, 3
They tried. And it resulted in the Vietnamese and Korean wars. About the only countries really worth an alliance are SK and Australia which I don't think needs to be spelled out that they're already allies

 

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North Viet government would probably tell the US to go fuck themselves, Thailand/Siam are too corrupt to actually be a valuable ally (and are sort of west-aligned anyways) and India is already with BRICS (US hates BRICS)

 

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Pacific Islanders are either Commonwealth (So kinda NATO already) or Islamic (will tell the US to go fuck themselves)
Same with Bangladesh, Pakistan, and Sri Lanka

 

[StudioCaca]

I heavily disagree with this. One of the main side effects of globalism is the weakening of patriotic tendencies. I think it's important for every citizen to be patriotic (erm... statist fag...).

Yeah but we are going to start colonizing planets in a couple hundred years idk science machine stuff and it would be awkward if earth wasnt united while we colonize other planets. When i say globalism i mean as in the "country"/planet would keep the countrys local governments but have a single economy and army/law system.

 

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Only way NATO territorial expansion would actually happen in AESAN is if they started going full conquerer which is a WW3 DLC and we shouldn't be spoiling that

 

[265121297]

1. If the US were to control asia pacific right now they would make some awful decisions. Look at how many politicians are ultra race traitors and shill for Israel over our own citizens
2. And you see that in how dysfunctional the state is.

That’s true, but it’s still important to curtail chinese influence in the region since that will make it easier for america to take control when they’re capable of leading effectively. I think israel is a very unique situation due to how powerful mossad is. There is no equivalent to them in SEA.
I think it’s more accurate to say that chinese and israeli spies are competing for influence over the us government. I don’t think they’re working together.

Also, 3
They tried. And it resulted in the Vietnamese and Korean wars. About the only countries really worth an alliance are SK and Australia which I don't think needs to be spelled out that they're already allies

The vietnam war was a civil war that america intervened in. That situation could not happen today. There is no way china would support an aggressive north korea today. Getting dragged into a regional war is not worth it to them. Having a formal alliance with australia and south korea is still good since it allows america to exercise more infouence over them.

North Viet government would probably tell the US to go fuck themselves, Thailand/Siam are too corrupt to actually be a valuable ally (and are sort of west-aligned anyways) and India is already with BRICS (US hates BRICS)

Vietnam and america actually have great relations nowadays. They probably wouldn’t be interested in a military alliance doe. Thailand is a very valuable ally since they have the second biggest economy in the region, and have a central position in mainland SEA. They have been realigning towards china in the past couple years. India hates china much more than they do america. Brics is essentially a forum for discussing economic issues, not an alliance.