Vote to unban HWABAG.

[Soygoy]

i hope soygoy finishes editing the video so the public can decide who was guilty

its going to take a long time but ill get back to it and make as much progress as i can
the edit will be absolutely kino and cut down to save on time.

 

[Spas]

Genocide and child rape are two different things that are edgy for two different reasons

Both of them are edgy because they're atrocious and make people recoil, I don't think it's as deep as you're making it out to be

Sites don't slowly corrupt people into committing genocide

arguably they do corrupt people into committing mass shootings with genocidal intent (inb4 muh feds (true))

If you are questioning why child rape is held on a pedestal of degeneracy

Because a crime against the innocent is worse than a crime against someone who is fully developed, that's also why child murder is seen as much worse than murder, and why genocide is seen as much worse than the death of soldiers, and why DNB is much more controversial than TND, and why terrorism is seen as worse than war

I'm trying to actually address you and not just call you something like a pedoenabler, because I want to believe you are arguing in good faith

That just sounds very slimy, I'm very direct about what I think and there is no need for you to "want to believe" (???) I'm "arguing in good faith" and not this or the other. I'm here because I think HWABAG wasn't fairly treated. If I believed he was a pedophile I wouldn't be defending him, I just think he's edgy and I don't want to take the position of "he makes edgy jokes on the internet therefore he's le this or the other" because that is entirely applicable to me, even if I don't make the same jokes (goes for most of us on the site). I think the whole situation is overblown moralizing and I can think that without condoning, minimalizing the evils of or "enabling" child rape/pedophilia

Forums are stricter than imageboards and have to be

Not entirely sure why and how but sure, even if I don't really see this being the case, I'll grant you that. I still think HWABAG was treated unfairly and slandered.

 

[(In)CelibatePsycho]

Genocide and child rape are two different things that are edgy for two different reasons. There is a reason why sexual crimes are treated differently when a child is involved. Sites don't slowly corrupt people into committing genocide, but the other happens. If you are questioning why child rape is held on a pedestal of degeneracy, that is a question for society. Child rape is viewed as more heinous than just rape for the same nebulous reason that sets it apart from genocide, yet it is still recognized by every nation on Earth. It would be one thing if you were using this incident to justify the ban of genocide jokes, but you are taking the side of defending child rape jokes. Again, even if the jannies are cosmically in the wrong, this is not up for debate and the janny team has 0 intention of changing this policy. I'm trying to actually address you and not just call you something like a pedoenabler, because I want to believe you are arguing in good faith. Forums are stricter than imageboards and have to be, and even then, that post would get you a week ban on the 'arty.

If sites corrupt people into raping kids they definitely “corrupt” them into going on mass shootings

 

[USL]

Both of them are edgy because they're atrocious and make people recoil, I don't think it's as deep as you're making it out to be

But they are atrocious for different reasons. Even if the reasons aren't easily put into words, war and killing are not treated the same as child rape. I'd kinda get the parallel if you are arguing to have both banned but you aren't...

arguably they do corrupt people into committing mass shootings with genocidal intent (inb4 muh feds (true))

You are grasping at straws. 0 websites are responsible for genocides and as for school shootings, if someone were to say, "I'm going to shoot up my school, lol" with 0 context beyond that, they would also be banned.

Because a crime against the innocent is worse than a crime against someone who is fully developed, that's also why child murder is seen as much worse than murder, and why genocide is seen as much worse than the death of soldiers, and why DNB is much more controversial than TND, and why terrorism is seen as worse than war

Then you understand why his ban was more severe.

That just sounds very slimy, I'm very direct about what I think and there is no need for you to "want to believe" (???) I'm "arguing in good faith" and not this or the other. I'm here because I think HWABAG wasn't fairly treated. If I believed he was a pedophile I wouldn't be defending him, I just think he's edgy and I don't want to take the position of "he makes edgy jokes on the internet therefore he's le this or the other" because that is entirely applicable to me, even if I don't make the same jokes (goes for most of us on the site). I think the whole situation is overblown moralizing and I can think that without condoning, minimalizing the evils of or "enabling" child rape/pedophilia

You are writing paragraphs about how child rape jokes aren't that bad. You are defending it even if you are just saying "It should be a 1 day ban rather than a permaban". Your directness doesn't matter when this is the reality of what you are defending.

Not entirely sure why and how but sure, even if I don't really see this being the case, I'll grant you that. I still think HWABAG was treated unfairly and slandered.

Broot premabanned him and everyone is held to this same standard. The only reason everyone know HWABAG was banned for making pedo jokes is because shit like this thread.

 

[istanbul]

But they are atrocious for different reasons. Even if the reasons aren't easily put into words, war and killing are not treated the same as child rape. I'd kinda get the parallel if you are arguing to have both banned but you aren't...

You are grasping at straws. 0 websites are responsible for genocides and as for school shootings, if someone were to say, "I'm going to shoot up my school, lol" with 0 context beyond that, they would also be banned.

Then why his ban was more severe.

You are writing paragraphs about how child rape jokes aren't that bad. You are defending it even if you are just saying "It should be a 1 day ban rather than a permaban". Your directness doesn't matter when this is the reality of what you are defending.

Broot will not unban him and everyone is held to this same standard. The only reason everyone know sHWABAG was banned for making pedo jokes is because shit like this thread.

you should've been on the ace attorney chatroom yesterday or something

 

[basil]

you should've been on the ace attorney chatroom yesterday or something

i should have been the judge i am unbiased

 

[Soygoy]

you should've been on the ace attorney chatroom yesterday or something

he would have been good but HWABAG is getting unbanned so doing it again is useless, i can just make a fake scene in the edit that explains that DOLL rose to the judge's stand and delcared HWABAG innocent and would let him out of coal gulag in then next few days to the celebration of Wright and the slight disappointment of Edgeworth. Plus the footage is 2 hours long which means editing all of this is going to take more than like 4 to 8 hours

 

[Fagon]

HWABAG won btw

 

[Aedra]

Child rape "jokes" are not funny. They are used to make the site look bad, they are inherently degenerate, and more often than not the people who make pedophile jokes end up being pedophiles. Maybe this was just a joke in poor taste, but it was a really unfunny and retarded joke to make. Even if Child rape "jokes" are actually le heck'n funny because some redditor said so, it has never been a secret that shlog jannies have 0 tolerance for it.

Total nigger death "jokes" are not funny. They are used to make the site look bad, they are inherently degenerate, and more often than not the people who make TND jokes end up being murderers. Maybe this was just a joke in poor taste, but it was a really unfunny and retarded joke to make. Even if total nigger death "jokes" are actually le heck'n funny because some redditor said so, it has never been a secret that shlog jannies have 0 tolerance for it.

See how silly this sounds now? I see no difference between the two. They are both highly immoral things. But you only feel the need to sperg out over one of them. It's hypocritical.

 

[USL]

See how silly this sounds now? I see no difference between the two. They are both highly immoral things. But you only feel the need to sperg out over one of them. It's hypocritical.

It makes you look silly because you can't just plug TND in there and have it make sense. People who post TND haven't been shown to tend to be murderers, however people who make 'p jokes have tended to be lolicons, pedophiles, and unfortunately child rapists. The shlog has never had a 0-tolerance policy for TND. Your gotcha is poorly thought out and if I'm sperging, everyone in this thread is sperging.

 

[Fagon]

Total nigger death "jokes" are not funny. They are used to make the site look bad, they are inherently degenerate, and more often than not the people who make TND jokes end up being murderers. Maybe this was just a joke in poor taste, but it was a really unfunny and retarded joke to make. Even if total nigger death "jokes" are actually le heck'n funny because some redditor said so, it has never been a secret that shlog jannies have 0 tolerance for it.

See how silly this sounds now? I see no difference between the two. They are both highly immoral things. But you only feel the need to sperg out over one of them. It's hypocritical.

even doe making the purposefully retarded and outlandish defense of jews wanting to have sex with children by saying "but it's trad" in the thread where you make retarded and outlandish defenses of everything no matter what is obviously indicative that he wants to have sex with children, whereas spamming gore of dead african children is a wholesome 100 joke.

 

[Aedra]

and if I'm sperging, everyone in this thread is sperging.

Yeah I don't doubt that. I personally just think most people here are too sensitive over the matter. My point is the fact that everyone here feels the need to talk about le morals when it comes to this one topic, but they forsake morals when it comes to every other topic. I'd listen to advice about morality from any ordinary man, but it's laughable to hear a person who uses a forum like this talk about it. None of you should pretend you're any better at least. And that goes for me too.

 

[USL]

Yeah I don't doubt that. I personally just think most people here are too sensitive over the matter. My point is the fact that everyone here feels the need to talk about le morals when it comes to this one topic, but they forsake morals when it comes to every other topic. I'd listen to advice about morality from any ordinary man, but it's laughable to hear a person who uses a forum like this talk about it. None of you should pretend you're any better at least. And that goes for me too.

>Everyone writing paragraphs who disagrees with me are spergs but everyone writing paragraphs who agree with me aren't.
>Your morality is shit because you use a forum, even though myself and everyone who agrees with me in this thread use the same forum.

 

[Spas]

But they are atrocious for different reasons.

Yes, child rape and genocide are abhorrent for different reasons, obviously, but making jokes about either one boils down to them being abhorrent, every evil deed is abhorrent in it's own way. I'm not sure if you're trying to quantify it, like how many genocides are equal in atrocity to rape of a child? Like would I rather a child be raped or my country get nuked?

You are grasping at straws.

Because sites where people talk about white replacement, how bad niggers and jews are, how they should all be genocided, could never motivated someone to follow through the talk? I don't even see where this line of thought is going honestly, if I proved internet radicalization is real would you be on board banning TND jokes?

Then you understand why his ban was more severe.

His ban was more severe as compared to whose? You've been kinda esling throughout but I've sort of made out the gist of it so far, I don't see what comparison you're trying to make? Did you mean to say that his "crime" was more severe? The thing I would point out is that this exact conversation structure would be mirrored exactly if you tried being edgy in a safe edgy space.
>You can't joke about genocide, genocide is evil!
>a lot of people use jokes to disguise their genuine hatred of others
>These kind of jokes are dangerous because they can motivate real tragedies
>wow are you seriously defending holocaust jokes? YIKES.

You are writing paragraphs about how child rape jokes aren't that bad. You are defending it even if you are just saying "It should be a 1 day ban rather than a permaban". Your directness doesn't matter when this is the reality of what you are defending.

This is bordering on slander, you're basically trying to imply that me defending HWABAG implicates me with child rape. I am defending HWABAG and I am speaking my mind on the matter. I am not "defending" "child rape jokes" anymore than I am advocating for fair enforcement of the rules. And while on the topic, it wasn't so much a child rape joke as it was a sarcastic remark about judaism. Just because I am not equally scandalized by it as you and broot are is no basis for you to judge my character or to assume the worst you can about me, the same way that it would be unfair for someone to assume you want to shoot up a black orphanage because you're on the site where DNB gets posted or because you said "TND". As I said everyone has the right to be repulsed by this brand of humor, the same way that everyone also has the right to be repulsed by TND jokes or cobson dancing in front of a beheaded black infant. But to pretend HWABAG is guilty of some extraordinary crime is just atrociously stupid and that's why I'm speaking out about it. I dislike walking on eggshells but as far as I'm concerned I don't care if humor like this is banned, I don't make those kinds of jokes and It would be much easier for me to just nod along and virtue signal how "yes yes wow he's literally a pedophile for making that joke, we should kill him yes".

People who post TND haven't been shown to tend to be murders

Presumptuous, murder in general is a lot rarer than pedophilia or "lolicons" (engagement in which is legal, which also obfuscates the issue of numbers). I'd say every mass shooter has engaged in murderous jokes or racist jokes, even if there's less of them, so by the precedent you've set, which is guilt by association, we're all really mass shooters and murder jokes should be banned.
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Again, if Broot wants to ban all jokes regarding minors it's whatever, it's his site, but HWABAG wasn't fairly treated and I'm arguing for him specifically.

My point is the fact that everyone here feels the need to talk about le morals when it comes to this one topic, but they forsake morals when it comes to every other topic. I'd listen to advice about morality from any ordinary man, but it's laughable to hear a person who uses a forum like this talk about it. None of you should pretend you're any better at least. And that goes for me too

Very well put, if this is going to be the ironyposting site where no one means what they say it ought to be treated as such, but if we're going to have a redline users ought to be warned about it before such drastic action is taken

 

[bnwoclitty]

Transphobia "jokes" are not funny. They are used to make the site look bad, they are inherently degenerate, and more often than not the people who make transphobia jokes end up turning trans. Maybe this was just a joke in poor taste, but it was a really unfunny and retarded joke to make. Even if Transphobia "jokes" are actually le heck'n funny because some redditor said so, it has never been a secret that shlog jannies have 0 tolerance for it.

 

[Aedra]

>Your morality is shit because you use a forum, even though myself and everyone who agrees with me in this thread us the same forum.

I said it goes for me too. Learn to read.

 

[Spas]

>Everyone writing paragraphs who disagrees with me are spergs but everyone writing paragraphs who agree with me aren't.
>Your morality is shit because you use a forum, even though myself and everyone who agrees with me in this thread use the same forum.
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Not really what he said, from what I understand he basically said either we should moralize about every out of line thing said on the site instead of sperging out at, what is in all honestly, a very mild remark that is literally more anti semitic than it is condoning of child rape, or threat posters charitably when they make edgy jokes

 

[Gemerald]

Yes, child rape and genocide are abhorrent for different reasons, obviously, but making jokes about either one boils down to them being abhorrent, every evil deed is abhorrent in it's own way. I'm not sure if you're trying to quantify it, like how many genocides are equal in atrocity to rape of a child? Like would I rather a child be raped or my country get nuked?

Because sites where people talk about white replacement, how bad niggers and jews are, how they should all be genocided, could never motivated someone to follow through the talk? I don't even see where this line of thought is going honestly, if I proved internet radicalization is real would you be on board banning TND jokes?

His ban was more severe as compared to whose? You've been kinda esling throughout but I've sort of made out the gist of it so far, I don't see what comparison you're trying to make? Did you mean to say that his "crime" was more severe? The thing I would point out is that this exact conversation structure would be mirrored exactly if you tried being edgy in a safe edgy space.
>You can't joke about genocide, genocide is evil!
>a lot of people use jokes to disguise their genuine hatred of others
>These kind of jokes are dangerous because they can motivate real tragedies
>wow are you seriously defending holocaust jokes? YIKES.

This is bordering on slander, you're basically trying to imply that me defending HWABAG implicates me with child rape. I am defending HWABAG and I am speaking my mind on the matter. I am not "defending" "child rape jokes" anymore than I am advocating for fair enforcement of the rules. And while on the topic, it wasn't so much a child rape joke as it was a sarcastic remark about judaism. Just because I am not equally scandalized by it as you and broot are is no basis for you to judge my character or to assume the worst you can about me, the same way that it would be unfair for someone to assume you want to shoot up a black orphanage because you're on the site where DNB gets posted or because you said "TND". As I said everyone has the right to be repulsed by this brand of humor, the same way that everyone also has the right to be repulsed by TND jokes or cobson dancing in front of a beheaded black infant. But to pretend HWABAG is guilty of some extraordinary crime is just atrociously stupid and that's why I'm speaking out about it. I dislike walking on eggshells but as far as I'm concerned I don't care if humor like this is banned, I don't make those kinds of jokes and It would be much easier for me to just nod along and virtue signal how "yes yes wow he's literally a pedophile for making that joke, we should kill him yes".

Presumptuous, murder in general is a lot rarer than pedophilia or "lolicons" (engagement in which is legal, which also obfuscates the issue of numbers). I'd say every mass shooter has engaged in murderous jokes or racist jokes, even if there's less of them, so by the precedent you've set, which is guilt by association, we're all really mass shooters and murder jokes should be banned.
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Again, if Broot wants to ban all jokes regarding minors it's whatever, it's his site, but HWABAG wasn't fairly treated and I'm arguing for him specifically.

Very well put, if this is going to be the ironyposting site where no one means what they say it ought to be treated as such, but if we're going to have a redline users ought to be warned about it before such drastic action is taken

words words words, you really expect me to read all that?

 

[istanbul]

there should be an emote to react to genuinely retarded posts, tranny reacting is not the same

 

[Spas]

you should've been on the ace attorney chatroom yesterday or something

he would have been good

You dementia ridden niggers I LITERALLY WAS THERE
I WAS THE DEFENSE
I WAS PHOENIX WRIGHT