how is assisted suicide bad?

[Oot]

Again, DOLL only seems to be interested in using straw man arguments. He has all of these assumptions in his head about us and has shown little interest in attempting to understand our perspectives.

Can you explain to me what a straw man is, I've seen this term thrown around 1 billion times... I still not know

 

[WH15KeY]

Can you actually engage with what we are trying to say?

 

[(In)CelibatePsycho]

People kill themselves because they're heart broken, alcoholics in tons of drama, they're heavily in debt, etc. These things happen to a lot of us, we deal with them in many ways. Suicide is one option, some people take it. I don't think they should. And I'm not selfish for thinking that way, taking their feelings into consideration is irrelevant when they are considering ending what they think is their entire existence. That's a very stark answer for a problem that has other solutions.

Not everything has a solution. And even if there is, maybe suicide is still the best solution sometimes.

 

[WH15KeY]

Can you explain to me what a straw man is, I've seen this term thrown around 1 billion times... I still not know

"This fallacy occurs when, in attempting to refute another person's argument, you address only a weak or distorted version of it. Straw person is the misrepresentation of an opponent's position or a competitor's product to tout one's own argument or product as superior."

 

[Oot]

Not everything has a solution. And even if there is, maybe suicide is still the best solution sometimes.

They should still try to find a reason to live. Instead of putting money into helping kill these people off, how about we help them?

 

[(In)CelibatePsycho]

They should still try to find a reason to live. Instead of putting money into helping kill these people off, how about we help them?

I don’t think we should fund assisted suicide. If someone wants to kill themselves they should pay for it themselves.

>how about we help them

Some things can’t be helped. And when they can, most people don’t bother to do so. We can’t just make people start caring more out of the blue. We can, however, legalize assisted suicide.

 

[DOLL]

Again, DOLL only seems to be interested in using straw man arguments. He has all of these assumptions in his head about us and has shown little interest in attempting to understand our perspectives.

You are absolutely right. I am not interested in hearing the case for those who are unwilling to live. If you are living and you believe your life is such torment that neither God or yourself can save you, then I don't have any reason to try to convince you otherwise. Send someone on their deathbed who is absolutely convinced suicide is the only option. I am not interested in discussing the issue with those who proclaim death is the only option for the weak, frail, mentally inept, socially awkward, drunk, or depressed. Your life is worth something whether it is to yourself, your family, your friends, or to the world at large. Some atheist fag who has never endured suffering and knows nothing should not be the decider in what your life is worth.
If you believed life was such torment that only death is an option, then we wouldn't be speaking to each other. But nihilists are hypocrites to the very end and this behavior is expected.

 

[Oot]

I don’t think we should fund assisted suicide. If someone wants to kill themselves they should pay for it themselves.

>how about we help them

Some things can’t be helped. And when they can, most people don’t bother to do so. We can’t just make people start caring more out of the blue. We can, however, legalize assisted suicide.

>We can’t just make people start caring more out of the blue.
With the same amount of effort put into pushing for the legalization of assisted suicide, you could instead push for government initiatives to help people considering suicide.

 

[(In)CelibatePsycho]

>We can’t just make people start caring more out of the blue.
With the same amount of effort put into pushing for the legalization of assisted suicide, you could instead push for government initiatives to help people considering suicide.

We could push for more taxes, you mean. Fuck you government cuck

 

[Oot]

>We could push for more taxes, you mean. Fuck you government cuck

Geeg, clitty leak

 

[WH15KeY]

They should still try to find a reason to live. Instead of putting money into helping kill these people off, how about we help them?

In an ideal world, I agree... and under most circumstances I think we can help a lot of people. Some people just will never fit into the world. I believe assisted suicide has too many loopholes that would allow the vulnerable to be taken advantage of. So I say we do not need it. At least under circumstances where there are no terminal illnesses involved.

Mental health diagnoses are much to subjective to allow them to be the basis of who we allow to go through with assisted suicide.

 

[istanbul]

Saying that life is something so worthless that it could be ended by simply walking into a shop one day with some dollar bills isn't good for the health of humanity

There are a lot of things that aren't good for the health of humanity that we have to deal with. Depression is a modern day issue. We weren't made to live in cities.

It's selfish and seeing that this has even become a concept reflects on society's apathy towards human life.

To the contrary, I think putting less value on human life would do us much good. If anything, we're doing as terribly as we are because the goyim have been made to believe the life of a beggar has the same value as the life of a nobel prize winner, and that all people, regardless of their race or sex, are entitled to exactly the same things (but not obliged to do the same things, oddly enough). It brings the more capable down, it puts shitters in places where they shouldn't be and it gives false hopes to mediocre people.

You could purchase a firearm and some bullets if you wanted to, kill yourself that way. But nah, you're too much of a pussy to do that. You've got to normalize suicide to be comfortable enough to take your own life. That's the most pathetic shit ever.

Your argument is that, making something convenient, effective and not traumatic for the person directly affected is bad because ???
Also that's only burgerland. Imagine going through 5 months worth of paperwork to get a gun just so you can kill yourself.

Think about what that means for other people and their productivity, it'd be demoralizing as fuck knowing I live on the same planet with some baby that killed himself in the gas pod over some pussy

>Think about le shekels and le productivity!

 

[DOLL]

Hey man, I wanted to blow my brains out shotgun style but I ate some wings from Buffalo Wild Wings and I think the world isn't that bad anymore. Garlic Parmesan is pretty good and I think I'm going to stick around for a few more years or something.

 

[WH15KeY]

You are absolutely right. I am not interested in hearing the case for those who are unwilling to live. If you are living and you believe your life is such torment that neither God or yourself can save you, then I don't have any reason to try to convince you otherwise. Send someone on their deathbed who is absolutely convinced suicide is the only option. I am not interested in discussing the issue with those who proclaim death is the only option for the weak, frail, mentally inept, socially awkward, drunk, or depressed. Your life is worth something whether it is to yourself, your family, your friends, or to the world at large. Some atheist fag who has never endured suffering and knows nothing should not be the decider in what your life is worth.
If you believed life was such torment that only death is an option, then we wouldn't be speaking to each other. But nihilists are hypocrites to the very end and this behavior is expected.

I enjoy life and am not a nihilist, lol.

 

[Oot]

Hey man, I wanted to blow my brains out shotgun style but I ate some wings from Buffalo Wild Wings and I think the world isn't that bad anymore. Garlic Parmesan is pretty good and I think I'm going to stick around for a few more years or something.

BDubs is shit, but based consoomer philosophy... gotta stay alive for the next nintendo bing bing yahoo release

 

[DOLL]

I enjoy life and am not a nihilist, lol.

The threads you have made point to the contrary Lol

 

[WH15KeY]

The threads you have made point to the contrary Lol

What threads would possibly suggest I am a nihilist?

 

[DOLL]

BDubs is shit, but based consoomer philosophy... gotta stay alive for the next nintendo bing bing yahoo release

I had some good spicy garlic wings there in January. $60 but I had a gift card so it was pretty much free. Maybe the soyboys were right and @nagolbud injected too much ivermectin, I donno.

 

[(In)CelibatePsycho]

The threads you have made point to the contrary Lol

How could this unconquerable aryan deity be a nihilist?

 

[WH15KeY]

I suppose I often associate nihilism with misanthropy which is why I never viewed myself as a supporter of it. But if we are going by the definition.


I fit that. I believe life has no objective meaning. All atheists would have to, no?