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Discussion What is your favorite form of Fascism?

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  • Salazarism/National Corparitism

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  • British Fascism (Mosley thought)

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  • Japanese Imperialism (Debatable whether or not it is fascist but a lot of its followers are fascist)

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I'm not a fascist, but that's my favorite form of fascism i guess, also ba'athism
I actually made my avi a Ba’athist logo to celebrate and also because it looks good and I was thinking about assad and saddam
 
I'm not a fascist, but that's my favorite form of fascism i guess, also ba'athism
Fascism at first was just another form of socialism before it got subverted by capitalists who wanted it as a block and a substitute to give the masses what they thirsted for without letting them overthrow you and maintaining power and blocking socialism letting you kill multiple birds with several stones and have your cake also it helps build a nation and prepare it for war and your own interests
 
Fascism at first was just another form of socialism before it got subverted by an elite
The only thing fascism has ever had in common with socialism was opposing liberal capitalism, and that only really on a rhetoric level. Fascists do not believe in wealth redistribution, people being inherently equal or class warfare. The latter nazis substituted with antisemitism and then put into practice by killing millions of working class jews while collaborating with capitalist elites because they're le aryan.
 
The only thing fascism has ever had in common with socialism was opposing liberal capitalism, and that only really on a rhetoric level. Fascists do not believe in wealth redistribution, people being inherently equal or class warfare. The latter nazis substituted with antisemitism and then put into practice by killing millions of working class jews while collaborating with capitalist elites because they're le aryan.
You are correct in the present tense, Mussolini intended at first during the early days of fascism that the ideology would be a variation of Socialism it wasn’t until Hitler influenced Mussolini in several meetings and Ww2 to make fascism reactionary and what it is today. When it did it went against its old prinicples but afterwards it was purely reactionary and used as a weapon and defense agaisnt communism
 
You are correct in the present tense, Mussolini intended at first during the early days of fascism that the ideology would be a variation of Socialism it wasn’t until Hitler influenced Mussolini in several meetings and Ww2 to make fascism reactionary when it did it went against its old prinicples but afterwards it was purely reactionary and used as a weapon and defense agaisnt communism
Mussolini already broke off with socialists during WW1 when the Socialist party (which he was a member of) supported ending the war because they saw it as a pointless conflict enriching capitalists. Mussolini however said Italy should keep the war going but on the side of the Allies instead (we all know how that turned out). Point is, he was expulsed from the party.
Nationalism is not the same as socialism.
 
Mussolini already broke off with socialists during WW1 when the Socialist party (which he was a member of) supported ending the war because they saw it as a pointless conflict enriching capitalists. Mussolini however said Italy should keep the war going but on the side of the Allies instead (we all know how that turned out). Point is, he was expulsed from the party.
Nationalism is not the same as socialism.
He literally designed fascism as another form of socialism and mostly in root and alternative that was better and had the same concept and idea and practice
 
He literally designed fascism as another form of socialism and mostly in root and alternative that was better and had the same concept and idea and practice
He was a nationalist - an ultranationalist even - from the very start. By doing that he went against the clear writings of Marx, Engels and almost every other socialist alive back then, all of whom were internationalists. He, like other fascists, valued the nation above all and was willing to make sacrifices from the working class for it.
If you still think this is somehow fundamentally compatible with socialism then I can't argue against that. But they call it the Third Way for a reason.
 
He was a nationalist - an ultranationalist even - from the very start. By doing that he went against the clear writings of Marx, Engels and almost every other socialist alive back then, all of whom were internationalists. He, like other fascists, valued the nation above all and was willing to make sacrifices from the working class for it.
If you still think this is somehow fundamentally compatible with socialism then I can't argue against that. But they call it the Third Way for a reason.
Well I guess you could say that fascism both early on in development and today is third-way, You can still be a socialist and a nationalist. Just look at Joseph Stalin’s policy in the USSR
 
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