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The "moral" outrage over AI

Soynic Hedgehog

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Do you look online, especially in "content creation" platforms? Do you notice how there AI has become almost a political boogeyman similar to NFTs?

I have seen videos and videos of internet art channels and commentary channels making a scene out of AI being involved in ANYTHING. Upon finding out someone uses AI or something is AI generated they react in a way that they would if they found out that someone was an outspoken trump suporter or a chud. In the politics of social media it seems like AI is a political taboo. People will do massive expose investigations to expose someone for using AI and act like they just outed a pedophile or something.

The severity of the hysteria is strikingly incongruent to the actual threat or immorality posessed by generative AI

The second most common fear is that AI will bring about the death of organic art (via outcompeting and completely automating it). I find this absolutely ridiculous. AI isn't even close to comparing to the orignality, continuity, and flexability of the human imagination, and won't be for the forseeable future. But what IF it does? Well IF ai ever makes it to that point, would be by nature indistinguishable from the human mind and creativity, so its art would be just as much art as that of a human. The only "sin" here committed by said AI would then be its competition with artists who don't use it. That "sin" I believe, sheds light on the actual motivation behind the anti AI frenzy.
That is because the MOST common moral criticism of AI is that it is trained on "stolen" source material without the consent of the creators of said material. In other words, artists claim their art is being plagerized and stolen by the AI companies, and that means anything generated by the AI is illegitimate, because the images used to train it did not belong to the AI company. This is also really fucking retarded. The AI is trained off of other peoples work, yes, but so is every actual human artist. The things made by AI are not anyone elses work than its own. It took a bunch of references, and made its own thing from them based on a prompt. Just because a refrence was used doesn't mean the resulting art belongs to the owner of said reference. Its like me printing out a bunch of art pieces, cutting them all up into tiny bits, mixing them all and making a collage, my own image, out of them. That collage is original, its not other people's work, and nobody who made the art pieces I cut up and used a couple pieces from owns my collage.

I think all of this drivel from these people is at its base, anxitey about being replaced or having more competition or losing their customers, which by the way, is a THEM problem. There is nothing wrong with competition. All of the arguements I see are flimsy and come off as rationalizations of the fear of competition and losing their audience's dependence on their work. Nothing was immoral about the automobile outcompeting horse buggy. All of these people and their sycophants are just lashing out like cornered animals, trying to stamp out competition JUST LIKE the giant megacorps they all claim to despise do, and that is why, on principle, I think all of these internet artists are entitled losers having a tantrum. Hey retards! Instead of whining and trying to rulefag your competition to death, HOW ABOUT you do what everyone normal knows to do and ADAPT to your market. Lots of people don't like AI and find value in art being made by hand. There will always be a market for such genuine human art. I also think a lot of these scared artists must be making shit like porn or peoples favorite media characters doing mundane stuff or other run of the mill products that your average person comissions an online artist to make that generative AIs actually are good enough to compete with, hence the fear. If you are drawing anime feet and other souless shit for a bunch of tasteless gooners and spergs, yeah, you are pretty replacable by a machine.


What do 'eens think about the AI art controversy? I should mention I am not an AI fanboy or anything. I like normal art far more in fact. I say that because I have gotten accused of it when arguing with these people because they are obssessed with AI. I just don't like when people wrongly persecute things to such levels. Its stupid and annoying and childish.
 
>WE NEED TO BAN PHOTOGRAPHY OR ART WILL BE DEAD FOREVER
>WE NEED TO BAN FILM OR ART WILL BE DEAD FOREVER
>WE NEED TO BAN COMPUTER RENDERING OR ART WILL BE DEAD FOREVER
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i used to think ai art was really keyed, because it could do abstract effects that a human would otherwise never be able to come up with/would absolutely suck to do in real time (such as latent space walks), and img2img, touchups with infill. also more frequently do i use ai voices as a souped up version of text to speech, 'cause aint nobody ever replied to my threads on the sharty when i would ask people to voice shit and then i just gave up on trying by the 3rd time it failed... stuff like pic related basically, and the gigafly gifs i consider keyed uses of ai. to me, ai was always a tool to make impossible effects possible, not as a replacement for the artistic process
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however, now that stable diffusion is no longer a nerdy techbro tool and everyone and they mum is using "ai" because microsoft and every other tech company on the planet is shilling it on them, it feels like... slop. well, now theres no longer as many open source models because its a literal goldrush ongoing, so i cant mess with internal things in ways that (((they))) didn't originally intend it for (you vill NOT have fun!!!). suddenly the only people i see using ai (at least obviously) are people using it to shit out roblox slopgame thumbnails, shit out brainrot content to farm money off of tiktok because some grifter told xim that xhe could. and shit out an endless amount of obviously fake gpt-generated "articles" with ai-gen images in them to game SEO and ruin any search results that dont have "site:reddit.com" appended.
also terrible in that ai-gen art by nature of its ability to shit out massive amounts of seo-optimized images floods search results with effectively simulacrums of simulacrums. if im trying to use references to draw something, i'd rather not see 100 glossy generic midjourney images with fucked up fingers and sludgy details versions of the thing im trying to draw, please and thank you
furry porn sweatshops losing customers to gooners using locally run ai to save their $200? entirely deserved. the sinners of asmodeus had it coming.
 
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ai was always a tool to make impossible effects possible, not as a replacement for the artistic process
This. It's really interesting all the insane shit you can do with it, it initially felt akin to something like magic. I had a fixation for years for "making" realistic AI generated faces, but bringing them to life while also using AI.
But they all had weird and distinctive features, and the weirder they looked the more "beautiful" or "captivating" I thought they looked. I don't really like the generic model faces that AI will often generate because they're boring.

however, now that stable diffusion is no longer a nerdy techbro tool and everyone and they mum is using "ai" because microsoft and every other tech company on the planet is shilling it on them, it feels like... slop.
Also this. GANs used to blow my mind, then I remember when Jukebox v1 and DALL-E 1 were released, when I had Discord I somehow managed to become one of early members in their 'cord back in August of 2022ish and having the privilege of using their first "available" model was mind blowing because being able to generate anything that came to your mind was just insane, it didn't feel real.
Now everyone uses AI and it's magical effects have been nullified and dulled due to the overexposure, also people aren't using it in and or for creative ways anymore, or perhaps maybe a majority of people aren't as creative as they think they are.
The AI memes generated by Soyjak.Party are fucking hilarious thoughbeit.

Also, I'm of the personal opinion that Artifical Intelligence is more deadly than the nuke could ever wish or hope to be.
 
People who worry about AI are retarded I doubt fucking lee goldson dancing is gonna replace my art anytime soon, even if my art isn't necessarily the best
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I don’t care if ai art is good or moral. I just think it’s funny when self important artcucks seethe,
THIS.... SO MUCH THIS 100 TIMES THIS
 
I hate AI in general but I always have to preface it by making it clear it's not because I'm a tranny so I'll say some schizobabble like it's interfacing with satan or it's the next tower of babylon
 
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