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AngloWizard

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ITT we discuss James Mason, SIEGE and all other things related to NS accelerationism
 
If I may ask, do you support Mason as a person? I'm just curious, as other people allegiant to the ideas of Atomwaffen who I've previously spoken with have usually tried to separate their support of his text away from any support of him, mainly because of the quite-nasty past business surrounding the guy.
 
baqqrih said:
If I may ask, do you support Mason as a person? I'm just curious, as other people allegiant to the ideas of Atomwaffen who I've previously spoken with have usually tried to separate their support of his text away from any support of him, mainly because of the quite-nasty past business surrounding the guy.
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I do not defend James Mason's questionable actions involving minors, nor do I defend his betrayal against the people who helped him

I do, however, believe that the James Mason who wrote SIEGE is different from the old demented James Mason who did all of that controversial stuff and associated himself with an actual pedophile


We need to understand that Mason is already old and suffers from dementia, he is not the man he once was, but yet this does not mean that we should abandon SIEGE, as the book promotes many important truths and is filled with crucial information and is just a generally good National Socialist publication
 
the american futurists acutally have a nice article where they explain their current relationship with SIEGE and James Mason

it's very important for the movement as a whole for us to understand many of the internal events surrounding groups like Atomwaffen and other groups associated with it

The actual original and official AWD disbanded back in 2020 but many people still dont know this and I just generally wish more NatSocs out there knew about this fact and about some other events going on in the more underground parts of the movement, but instead all we get is some groyper nonsense and some kosher cuckservative drama surrounding elon musk and trump and other controlled opposition
 
AngloWizard said:
I do not defend James Mason's questionable actions involving minors, nor do I defend his betrayal against the people who helped him

I do, however, believe that the James Mason who wrote SIEGE is different from the old demented James Mason who did all of that controversial stuff and associated himself with an actual pedophile


We need to understand that Mason is already old and suffers from dementia, he is not the man he once was, but yet this does not mean that we should abandon SIEGE, as the book promotes many important truths and is filled with crucial information and is just a generally good National Socialist publication
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I see. Thank you for the response. I only recently discovered the American Futurist article regarding their split with Mason, so I was curious to see if you shared those thoughts.
If I can ask something else, as an outsider to this stuff, in terms of religion's involvement with Atomwaffen/Siege ideology, is Christian Identity the only Christian lens that Siege religiously justifies itself with (I'm not keen on how this justification is precisely made, but, from what I've read, I believe that it takes a lot of inspiration from the Old Testament wars of the Israelites in making a comparison to a modern vision of Whites fighting against the other races)? I know Christian Identity is very prevalent within Atomwaffen, as Mason himself previously made a big video series trying to explain the theology of it all, but I wasn't certain of if it was exclusively the denomination that Atomwaffen adheres to, or if there is more to it than that.
 
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baqqrih said:
I see. Thank you for the response. I only recently discovered the American Futurist article regarding their split with Mason, so I was curious to see if you shared those thoughts.
If I can ask something else, as an outsider to this stuff, in terms of religion's involvement with Atomwaffen/Siege ideology, is Christian Identity the only Christian lens that Siege religiously justifies itself with (I'm not keen on how this justification is precisely made, but, from what I've read, I believe that it takes a lot of inspiration from the Old Testament wars of the Israelites in making a comparison to a modern vision of Whites fighting against the other races)? I know Christian Identity is very prevalent within Atomwaffen, as Mason himself previously made a big video series trying to explain the theology of it all, but I wasn't certain of if it was exclusively the denomination that Atomwaffen adheres to, or if there is more to it than that.
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I personally like to avoid Religious discussions, as I don't like how these discussions divide the movement.

In fact, I believe that Religious division is one of the most dangerous things we can have in our movement and so we should avoid it.


When it comes to my personal religion, I simply consider myself a Positive Christian.

I believe in the one Triune God of the New Testament and I believe Jesus Christ is the Son of God. I see Jesus Christ as a Galilean Aryan who opposed the jews and their corruption.

When it comes to justifying actions against our enemies through Religion, parables like that of the Wicked Husbandmen and the fig tree and the blood curse of Matthew and some other parts of the Bible can all justify violence against jews if you read it in a certain way.

I could go into more details and even list some of my favorite verses but that would take a lot of time and im kinda of tired right now
 
AngloWizard said:
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I personally like to avoid Religious discussions, as I don't like how these discussions divide the movement.

In fact, I believe that Religious division is one of the most dangerous things we can have in our movement and so we should avoid it.


When it comes to my personal religion, I simply consider myself a Positive Christian.

I believe in the one Triune God of the New Testament and I believe Jesus Christ is the Son of God. I see Jesus Christ as a Galilean Aryan who opposed the jews and their corruption.

When it comes to justifying actions against our enemies through Religion, parables like that of the Wicked Husbandmen and the fig tree and the blood curse of Matthew and some other parts of the Bible can all justify violence against jews if you read it in a certain way.

I could go into more details and even list some of my favorite verses but that would take a lot of time and im kinda of tired right now
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I see. Personally, I've always valued my religion above any political alignment (I consider myself an Eastern Orthodox Christian in my heart, and since a personal religious enlightenment and spiritual intensification that my soul underwent some time ago, I've quite-often rejected adopting any political stance outside of what I grasp from the words of my faith, because of how much I value my religion), hence, I'm a near-opposite to your stance, as I always try to pursue religious discussion, haha.
Anyway, that's fine if you'd like to get some rest instead of talking further tonight. I'm in no hurry for information. You've been very informative already, and I hope to talk to you more about this stuff, since it fascinates me, reading about it. I hope your night is well and that your sleep will be fulfilling. Lord watch over you.
 
baqqrih said:
I see. Personally, I've always valued my religion above any political alignment (I consider myself an Eastern Orthodox Christian in my heart, and since a personal religious enlightenment and spiritual intensification that my soul underwent some time ago, I've quite-often rejected adopting any political stance outside of what I grasp from the words of my faith, because of how much I value my religion), hence, I'm a near-opposite to your stance, as I always try to pursue religious discussion, haha.
Anyway, that's fine if you'd like to get some rest instead of talking further tonight. I'm in no hurry for information. You've been very informative already, and I hope to talk to you more about this stuff, since it fascinates me, reading about it. I hope your night is well and that your sleep will be fulfilling. Lord watch over you.
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Amen. Stay safe out there Brother
 

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