Discussion Psychiatry and Other Forms of Mental Health Treatment

[Oot]

And nowadays there is a very hazy line that separates people that are actually mentally ill and people who have some sort of minor inconvenience magnified 50 times over by themselves from what they see online, then by their doctor.

FalseNVKE, people who are mentally ill are easily distinguishable from confused normalDEITIES, DA BIG PHARMA just prescribe some of them anyway for profit and you obv know that

Trying to gaslight people into thinking they lack sympathy for not wanting to drug themselves up isn't an argument. I do in fact care about the mentally ill a lot. I just offer them different solutions instead of modern big pharma faggotry.

That wasn't meant to be a part of an argument, it was a statement regarding my opinion of people like you and Istancuck. What I said about you guys is irrelevant, that's just my opinion of you. It isn't relevant to this discussion at all and I shouldn't have brought that up in the first place. Anyway, I'm still waiting for you to provide these heckin' solutions, a lot of people on the schlog could use them.

 

[Oot]

give them all cyanide

You reminded me of that one shitty thread about self assisted suicide with this one

 

[Oot]

Never, meds should treat physical ailments not mental, the anti-depressants always cause more depression than they fix.

Asylums are a necessary evil in any sane society, when they were shut down in America all the people that would have been sent to an asylum just roam the streets shitting it up (physically and metaphorically) just for them to die of a drug overdose or get hit by a car, indirectly hurting everyone normal in the world making the cities crapholes. It isn't pretty but some people need to be sent away for the good of themselves and everyone else.

My opinions on mental health tend to flip-flop going from the >Mental health isn't real to the >Mental health is the biggest problem in society crowds and I think the latter school of thought, mental health is a big problem in the now because people with weak mental fortitude get brainwashed by poor thinking over the internet into thinking some crazy stuff (trannies... exist?) and its a big problem. That's 99% of mental illness now, just small shit that don't need nothing medical related and just doesn't exist but manages to perspire because of how endemic it is, and then there is the real mental illnesses like schizophrenia and dementia which are borderline untreatable and always cause the sad death of the victim with every loved one around them crying. I hope more money goes towards treating those ailments because there is few things that make me cry more than dementia does, it is probably the most grim way to go.

This is like Istancuck's take but acceptable

 

[istanbul]

That wasn't meant to be a part of an argument, it was a statement regarding my opinion of people like you and Istancuck. What I said about you guys is irrelevant, that's just my opinion of you. It isn't relevant to this discussion at all and I shouldn't have brought that up in the first place. Anyway, I'm still waiting for you to provide these heckin' solutions, a lot of people on the schlog could use them.

This is like Istancuck's take but acceptable

Why are you so upset with me? kek I'm trying to be civil, it's not like I'm bringing up sparkles or anything.

 

[Oot]

Why are you so upset with me? kek I'm trying to be civil, it's not like I'm bringing up sparkles or anything.

I'm not upset, I just call you istancuck because it do be funny tho

 

[istanbul]

I'm not upset, I just call you istancuck because it do be funny tho

Mindbroken

 

[baqqrih]

I can't quote on mi phone, @Aedra_222, what is the solution then. Don't pull a Baqqrih and say heckin' sky daddy o algo

Heckin’ sky daddy o algo

 

[ILoveVesna]

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slut for subhuman autist pecker award

 

[Oot]

Heckin’ sky daddy o algo

The TRVKE that saved all mentally ill people

 

[HACKERMAN88]

lol imagine being mentally ill i could never

 

[Maya]

Anything you think you need a therapist for can be solved with critical self-reflection and talking to understanding friends.

Meds might be different. IMO they're overprescribed especially for depression/bpd/whatever but I think some types of mental illness may need medication.

 

[Gigafly]

I self-medicate with fent

 

[sodack]

Unless you’re genuinely schizophrenic you don’t need meds and they will not be good for you

 

[NigKiller_Tojo]

why are dead nigger threads being necrobumped

 

[Gigafly]

why are dead nigger threads being necrobumped

They're as dead as Hiroshima blast shadows

 

[sodack]

why are dead nigger threads being necrobumped

I’m going to necrobump ten threads in your honor

 

[PepsiMan]

I think most mental help is designed to capture people with connections beyond our material realm and convert them into braindead zogbot androids via nanomachines in the pills, therapy is nice and can probably cure most mental issues if your therapist gives a shit about you and works on goals and self-management tactics and not just "Oh that's sad I'll refer you to my peer dr. goystein shekelburg and he'll diagnose you with anti-establishment syndrome and give you nanobot pills"

 

[Soynic Hedgehog]

>pills
Very broad and nuanced. Often not needed but some people do need pills. I assume you are talking mainly about SSRIs and other antidepressants/anti anxiety meds. I am diagnosed OCD, but that's a product of my upbringing, bad lifestyle and seasonal depression. I was given SSRIs but I didn't feel like they did anything and I kept forgetting to take them so I just quit. After all, my problem is psychological, not medical. I have a strong drive to explore new places and meet people but my neetish lazy tendencies along with outside circumstances made me be stuck in a boring monotenous life, and my mind is naturally reacting to that poorly. Its normal for someone to go crazy when they are isolated for a long time
>crazy houses
Nuanced. Some people need to be put away, others don't. Crazy houses are well known for their tendency to treat their patients like animals and abuse them, which is something that needs reform. The attempted suicide jails are terrible though. If I tried to kill myself, failed and was thrown into a shithole where I was treated like a retarded child, I would want to kill myself even more after getting out and hate living more.
>Talk therapy
Basically a secular version of talking to a preist or confession booth, but instead of doing it for free it costs money. Social norms on the internet and even IRL to a degree are extremely toxic and program people into having very unhealthy neurotic mindsets. A good therapist can help deprogram these mindsets and culmenate wisdom. A bad therapist is pretty much uselsess. A church figure or christian therapist is better because the word of god and the christian mindset naturally protects against neuroticism and self hatred, which the rest of society conditions people into having. Internet generation people are for the most part raised watching people get picked apart, publicly humiliated and shamed for normal mistakes, they also are raised with their worldview constantly under attack, and the atomization that the internet is responsible for also makes it harder to find friends which are helpful for making people feel vauled and not alone. I think these social beatdowns internalize in the chronic young viewer as a horrible obsessive fear of being wrong or not good enough ever, that depending on the person, can manifest in self hatred (because you think that the mistakes and embarassing things you have done in your life make you a bad or worthless person and you are incabable of accepting that mistakes and shortcomings are a normal thing you shouldn't live in shame of) narcisism (inflated but extremely fragile ego where you deny all of your shortcomings because you are incapable of accepting them so you need validation whenever the wall of denial gets too thin) or other personality conditions.

The problem with society abandoning christianity/any other faith is that the burden of finding structure, morality, conviction in their beliefs and purpose is all on the individual. I don't think most humans are built to handle figuring this all out. Your faith or religion is supposed to do a lot of this work for you, but now you have to do it on your own, or you could let the new secular culture build your values, but the problem with that is that the new secular culture is guilt and anxiety based and it hates you and itself. The new cultural values of the west at least are finding fault in everything you possibly can and shaming yourself and others over it, as well as living in never ending class envy to those more fortunate than you, and treating it as some charitable virtue and "caring about the downtrodden". Secular society preaches these toxic self destructive values that are poison to anyone who actually adopts them, so you have to either forge your own structure in life, will yourself into being christain in spite of the entire cultural institution doing everything it can to devalue and attack christianity, or let a toxic self hating culture posion your mind and turn you into a neurotic miserable mess.

Healthy and strong societies are built on faith. When they go secular they begin their decay. Humans are spiritual creatures and need faith to thrive.

 

[Soynic Hedgehog]

Never, meds should treat physical ailments not mental, the anti-depressants always cause more depression than they fix.

Asylums are a necessary evil in any sane society, when they were shut down in America all the people that would have been sent to an asylum just roam the streets shitting it up (physically and metaphorically) just for them to die of a drug overdose or get hit by a car, indirectly hurting everyone normal in the world making the cities crapholes. It isn't pretty but some people need to be sent away for the good of themselves and everyone else.

My opinions on mental health tend to flip-flop going from the >Mental health isn't real to the >Mental health is the biggest problem in society crowds and I think the latter school of thought, mental health is a big problem in the now because people with weak mental fortitude get brainwashed by poor thinking over the internet into thinking some crazy stuff (trannies... exist?) and its a big problem. That's 99% of mental illness now, just small shit that don't need nothing medical related and just doesn't exist but manages to perspire because of how endemic it is, and then there is the real mental illnesses like schizophrenia and dementia which are borderline untreatable and always cause the sad death of the victim with every loved one around them crying. I hope more money goes towards treating those ailments because there is few things that make me cry more than dementia does, it is probably the most grim way to go.

Mental health is a massive problem in society. Its just that the chemical imbalance thing is a meme, and these illnesses of the mind are really symptoms of a godless society in decay with a toxic self destructive culture and social and entertainment technological advancements that are actively harmful to the psyche and exacerbate all the former issues. If society never went secular and if social media never took off than we wouldn't have these issues

 

[Soynic Hedgehog]

I think most mental help is designed to capture people with connections beyond our material realm and convert them into braindead zogbot androids via nanomachines in the pills, therapy is nice and can probably cure most mental issues if your therapist gives a shit about you and works on goals and self-management tactics and not just "Oh that's sad I'll refer you to my peer dr. goystein shekelburg and he'll diagnose you with anti-establishment syndrome and give you nanobot pills"

I think the mental help culture IE making an identity out of your mental illness is a self defense mechanism by mostly white women that manufactures a sense of victimhood. Two of the sacred virtues of the west are victimhood and striking down the opressor, which under critical theory and critical race theory (which govern western thinking) is whoever is fortunate in society and of the same race as those who are the most dominant in society aka white people. Women are naturally far more obsessed with their social standing than men are, so in the eyes of the critical race theory subscribed white woman, the idea that THEY are in the oppressing class is unbearable. The (albeit insufficient) remedy to this is either trying to make up for their whiteness by attacking the oppressor on behalf of the "downtrodden" OR making themselves victims such as with feminism or mental health.