Chud General Trans Discussion And Questions

[anglo_bvll]

Trannies are weird and a large portion of trannies on the internet are retarded leftists.

 

[Chairman]

I myself wouldn't take ancient Jewish law as a direct commandment.

Are you saying that Leviticus should be ignored? Also, if we don't use violence, then we will surely be destroyed by (((they))) who do.

 

[FAGGOT!!!!!!!!!!!!]

I myself wouldn't take ancient Jewish law as a direct commandment.

>Hurr durr, it's from the Old Testament so it doesn't apply

The OT still holds wisdom.

 

[ILoveVesna]

>Hurr durr, it's from the Old Testament so it doesn't apply

The OT still holds wisdom.

kike wisdom

 

[baqqrih]

>Hurr durr, it's from the Old Testament so it doesn't apply

The OT still holds wisdom.

It certainly does, and we, as Christians, certainly do not follow ancient Israelite law, because it's Israelite law, not Christian law. Do you ritualistically slaughter animals to pay for your sin? Do you conserve all of the fat from the meats you eat to use as an offering to God? Do you force yourself against wearing different fabrics of clothing together? I'd imagine you don't do any of that, because we, as Christians, are not under that law. We are under the law of Christ, because Christ fulfilled the whole of the old law with His sacrificial death, and has set a new law for us; to love Him (and therefore, to abide with what He has told us to do in order to love Him) and to express the will of Christ to those around us with compassion (loving our neighbors). The entirety of our law hangs on these two things, as Christ defines quite clearly in the Gospel of Matthew.

 

[FAGGOT!!!!!!!!!!!!]

It certainly does, and we, as Christians, certainly do not follow ancient Israelite law, because it's Israelite law, not Christian law. Do you ritualistically slaughter animals to pay for your sin? Do you conserve all of the fat from the meats you eat to use as an offering to God? Do you force yourself against wearing different fabrics of clothing together? I'd imagine you don't do any of that, because we, as Christians, are not under that law. We are under the law of Christ, because Christ fulfilled the whole of the old law with His sacrificial death, and has set a new law for us; to love Him (and therefore, to abide with what He has told us to do in order to love Him) and to express the will of Christ to those around us with compassion (loving our neighbors). The entirety of our law hangs on these two things, as Christ defines quite clearly in the Gospel of Matthew.

Then how do we pick what holds value and that we should follow from what is law that Jesus did away with in the OT?

 

[baqqrih]

Then how do we pick what holds value and that we should follow from what is law that Jesus did away with in the OT?

We find our law through what is affirmed in the New Testament, and I do tell you, much of what is asserted as God's desire for us in the Old Testament is still within the new one, too. Since Christ did away with the old law, as you've stated, it is, of course, logical to go to what is currently in place over what was once in place, so to consult the New Testament for our law rather than what is written in the texts before Christ is the right choice for learning of our duties. To give you an example, all but one of the original Ten Commandments found in the Old Testament are asserted to be a part of Christ's law in the New Testament. The only one that isn't affirmed is removing yourself from doing any labor during the Sabbath (resting for the whole of Saturday).

 

[Lism]

>Why are you against trans identification?
Because transgenderism is totally and utterly delusional and the gender ideology meant to supplement it is blatantly self-contradicting. It is the ultimate expression of the inauthentic techno-Gnosticism that Heidegger warns us about, where the goal of life becomes to ascend the "prison" of nature horizontally (through material means) rather than vertically. If the Trannies simply believed themselves to be the opposite gender, I would still be repulsed by these delusions, but only so far as I am with other strange erratic people. What makes it truly devilish is that they take themselves hostage and through other people's altruism force the world to lie to them and embrace an obviously inconsistent set of beliefs.
>Were you ever supportive of trans identification?
I don't recall ever being supportive of trans identification. There have been times where I was neutral or not opinionated on it.
>Should cross-sex HRT be banned for adults?
Yes.
>What should trans-identified individuals do instead of taking cross-sex HRT and/or getting surgery?
Nothing.
>Is gender identity a legitimate concept?
No, do you want some resources on why it is retarded?
>Why do you think trans-identified individuals decide to take cross-sex HRT and/or get surgery?
A variety of reasons. Some legitimately are autogynephiliacs. Most of them are just gender dysphoriacs or somewhere in between these two extremes, but certainly they do not have brains of the opposite sex. Quite the contrary, actually. Autistic Transbians have much more mannish brains then homosexual cisgendered males.
>Should any trans identified individual be recognized as the gender of the sex they were not born as?
No.

 

[Chairman]

>It is the ultimate expression of the inauthentic techno-Gnosticism that Heidegger warns us about, where the goal of life becomes to ascend the "prison" of nature horizontally (through material means) rather than vertically.

 

[Hydrosophy]

>It is the ultimate expression of the inauthentic techno-Gnosticism that Heidegger warns us about, where the goal of life becomes to ascend the "prison" of nature horizontally (through material means) rather than vertically.
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[Soyteen Liker]

It is the ultimate expression of the inauthentic techno-Gnosticism that Heidegger warns us about, where the goal of life becomes to ascend the "prison" of nature horizontally (through material means) rather than vertically. If the Trannies simply believed themselves to be the opposite gender, I would still be repulsed by these delusions, but only so far as I am with other strange erratic people. What makes it truly devilish is that they take themselves hostage and through other people's altruism force the world to lie to them and embrace an obviously inconsistent set of beliefs.

Can you elaborate on this? I think I saw a 3 hour podcast about it once but couldn't pay attention, sounds interesting.

 

[Chairman]

Trvke dough.

Okay, I'll actually try to interpret it.
"Techno-Gnosticism" refers to Gnosticism expressed through technological means. Gnosticism has something to do with magic/witchcraft/spirituality, to my understanding. This is "inauthentic" because Gnosticism deals with the supernatural, and technology deals exclusively with the natural world. Therefore, the two concepts can never meet. He already clarified that escaping through the prison of nature (which to me seems like the Buddhist cycle of suffering) "horizonally" means to escape it through material (natural) means, so I will guess that to escape it "vertically" means to escape it through supernatural means. And vertically is the only way to escape the prison, because the prison of nature is all of nature (therefore it cannot be escaped within nature).

 

[Nihilma]

Your religion is inherently cucked and teaches to wash the feet of migrants and criminals. Read the Bible for once and you'll see it for what it is, a religion for slaves and old ladies.

>I'm depressed and don't have a thrive for anything
>Also yeah I have the truth about life, I am free and you're a slave, clearly
Way to go to prove the Larping allegation to be false, pagansissy

 

[Hydrosophy]

Okay, I'll actually try to interpret it.
"Techno-Gnosticism" refers to Gnosticism expressed through technological means. Gnosticism has something to do with magic/witchcraft/spirituality, to my understanding. This is "inauthentic" because Gnosticism deals with the supernatural, and technology deals exclusively with the natural world. Therefore, the two concepts can never meet. He already clarified that escaping through the prison of nature (which to me seems like the Buddhist cycle of suffering) "horizonally" means to escape it through material (natural) means, so I will guess that to escape it "vertically" means to escape it through supernatural means. And vertically is the only way to escape the prison, because the prison of nature is all of nature (therefore it cannot be escaped within nature).

My interpretation is similar, Troons view life as the Gnostics do, only a cruel prison they're born into, but they see this prison not as a spiritual one as is traditionally believed but entirely a materialistic one - it is manifest in them being born as a sex they do not feel they belong. Consequently, they believe that the only method of escape is through material, temporal means (troon drugs, surgery, etc.) which, as you said cannot actually be viewed as any escape as it is only recognises the material problems they face (thinking horizontally, on Earth) and not "spiritual" or "higher" problems (thinking vertically, towards Heaven and truth). So essentially the troon's problem is that he does not recognise the more crucial, eternal problems of life and existence and seek them, instead he wholly views only material/natural problems and cares only for material/natural solutions, which is fallacy thinking as material rewards and joys cannot ever bring true happiness or at least true meaning, which is the actual thing all men seek and all religions say they express.

 

[baqqrih]

Are you saying that Leviticus should be ignored? Also, if we don't use violence, then we will surely be destroyed by (((they))) who do.

It shouldn't be ignored, of course not, for that's not what I have said. What I have been saying is that God protects us and has a plan of ultimate salvation after death for us, so to even value our mortal lives to the extent that we think we need to resort to means of violence to murder these degenerated reprobates so they don't harm us is a false notion, because our souls, which are us, will not suffer any harm, as the Holy Spirit is with us. Our lives only matter for the purpose of praising God. If you aren't ready to have your entire mortal existence destroyed at any time for the purpose of upholding the glory of God and what He has commanded you to do, then you aren't trusting in God enough.

 

[Hydrosophy]

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>I'm depressed and don't have a thrive for anything
>Also yeah I have the truth about life, I am free and you're a slave, clearly
Way to go to prove the Larping allegation to be false, pagansissy

That post isn't a confession of depression or nihilism, really it wasn't entirely genuine and only an excuse to post the image I attached with it I found funny. There's still tons of things I enjoy, and I never said I have the complete truth of life either, just expressing my personal vitriol against Christianity. I was a Christian for a long time but after apostatising I kinda held a grudge against it, be a Christian all you want if it makes you happy.

 

[Nihilma]

That post isn't a confession of depression or nihilism, really it wasn't entirely genuine and only an excuse to post the image I attached with it I found funny. There's still tons of things I enjoy, and I never said I have the complete truth of life either, just expressing my personal vitriol against Christianity. I was a Christian for a long time but after apostatising I kinda held a grudge against it, be a Christian all you want if it makes you happy.

I didn't actually meant that lol !! Is the oldest fallacy on the internet

 

[Hydrosophy]

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I look like this.

 

[Fagon]

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whoever drew this got butthurt because someone kept telling him "GEEEEEEEEEEEEEEG UR MAD" and had to portray himself as unbothered.

 

[Nihilma]

whoever drew this got butthurt because someone kept telling him "GEEEEEEEEEEEEEEG UR MAD" and had to portray himself as unbothered.

Check the 'ru, something something nothing new under the sun