GEG Atheist fails

[Jimb0]

Why did they have the need to use less materials?

nigga are you serious, it's nature, wax is hard as fuck to produce for them
beehives are extremely optimized because of that

 

[Spadelover69]

I’m an atheist but I’m thinking about becoming a born again Christian but I wouldn’t want to give up bbc like that tho

 

[Itransheartblox]

nigga are you serious, it's nature, wax is hard as fuck to produce for them
beehives are extremely optimized because of that

They don't have consciousness like us
They could've used an another shape with more materials and survive but somehow they decided to use a hexagon shape

 

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[XXX_SKIBIDISIGMA_XXX]

nigga are you serious, it's nature, wax is hard as fuck to produce for them
beehives are extremely optimized because of that

Doesn't matter i'd love to eat a honeycomb.

 

[baqqrih]

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Great picture

 

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Also i find it intresting that people here can have actual intellectual conversations here.

 

[baqqrih]

Evolution is real but God did it.

This confuses me. Evolution implies that, prior to the creation of humanity by The Lord, there would have been death. This is a denial of the cause of the universe's fall that is clearly told by the scriptures to have come from the ancestral sin of the first of mankind, Adam and Eve.

 

[meijak]

This confuses me. Evolution implies that, prior to the creation of humanity by The Lord, there would have been death. This is a denial of the cause of the universe's fall that is clearly told by the scriptures to have come from the ancestral sin of the first of mankind, Adam and Eve.

Unless you can point to the scripture, I don't think it does. God made the creatures and gave them the ability to adapt and evolve is what I believe.

 

[baqqrih]

Unless you can point to the scripture, I don't think it does.

Sure thing. We can first look to the third chapter of Genesis, which describes the fall of the universe. These are God's words to Adam.
>Because you have listened to the voice of your wife and have eaten of the tree of which I commanded you, "You shall not eat of it," cursed is the ground because of you; in pain you shall eat of it all the days of your life; thorns and thistles it shall bring forth for you; and you shall eat the plants of the field. By the sweat of your face you shall eat bread, till you return to the ground, for out of it you were taken; for you are dust, and to dust you shall return. - Book of Genesis, Chapter 3, Verses 17-19
Earlier in Genesis, a description of the universe preceding this fall is also given to us.
>And God saw everything that he had made, and behold, it was very good. - Book of Genesis, Chapter 1, Verse 31
Thus, death was brought to the world by Adam and Eve's violation of God's commandment, and prior to that violation, it was not present in the world (for death is not "very good." In ancient Hebrew this word is "towb" and other appearances of it in the Old Testament also use it in a context of "pleasant" and "beneficial", neither of which death can be for its subject's physical form).
Now, to look to the evolutionary theory, it proposes that animals perished over time, and, at that, over a course of millions of years (there is another criticism to make here with regard to Genesis' own descriptions of the time it took for living things to come to existence, but I am focused right now on this theory's contradiction of scripture with regard to death's entrance into the world, so I will spare you of that), with constant deaths and slayings until, eventually, out came the species of the world that we know today.
So, there's a contradiction to be found here between the Book of Genesis' origin of death in the universe and evolutionary theory's. There is a clear, set establishment of when death came into our realm with scripture's notion, of how suffering was only brought upon this world after man's betrayal of God, while no similar notion can be found in the theory of evolution's proposal, since the claim is made there that death was not sourced from a betrayal committed by man, as man did not exist when death did in the evolutionary perspective. They are, therefore, at odds.

 

[meijak]

Sure thing. We can first look to the third chapter of Genesis, which describes the fall of the universe. These are God's words to Adam.
>Because you have listened to the voice of your wife and have eaten of the tree of which I commanded you, "You shall not eat of it," cursed is the ground because of you; in pain you shall eat of it all the days of your life; thorns and thistles it shall bring forth for you; and you shall eat the plants of the field. By the sweat of your face you shall eat bread, till you return to the ground, for out of it you were taken; for you are dust, and to dust you shall return. - Book of Genesis, Chapter 3, Verses 17-19
Earlier in Genesis, a description of the universe preceding this fall is also given to us.
>And God saw everything that he had made, and behold, it was very good. - Book of Genesis, Chapter 1, Verse 31
Thus, death was brought to the world by Adam and Eve's violation of God's commandment, and prior to that violation, it was not present in the world (for death is not "very good." In ancient Hebrew this word is "towb" and other appearances of it in the Old Testament also use it in a context of "pleasant" and "beneficial", neither of which death can be for its subject's physical form).
Now, to look to the evolutionary theory, it proposes that animals perished over time, and, at that, over a course of millions of years (there is another criticism to make here with regard to Genesis' own descriptions of the time it took for living things to come to existence, but I am focused right now on this theory's contradiction of scripture with regard to death's entrance into the world, so I will spare you of that), with constant deaths and slayings until, eventually, out came the species of the world that we know today.
So, there's a contradiction to be found here between the Book of Genesis' origin of death in the universe and evolutionary theory's. There is a clear, set establishment of when death came into our realm with scripture's notion, of how suffering was only brought upon this world after man's betrayal of God, while no similar notion can be found in the theory of evolution's proposal, since the claim is made there that death was not sourced from a betrayal committed by man, as man did not exist when death did in the evolutionary perspective. They are, therefore, at odds.

I don't think this speaks to evolution and if it did I think this is a very dogmatic view on it it. I don't think that like evolution is a slight against God, seeing as created a world for us all and then made us, it is because of his great benevolence that we can adapt and change depending on the circumstances of the world we inherited. This might be heretical but so be it.

 

[baqqrih]

This might be heretical but so be it.

Fair enough, then. I'm just going off of my literal interpretation. We both understand each others' views better, so I thank you for that.

 

[nigtard]

They don't have consciousness like us
They could've used an another shape with more materials and survive but somehow they decided to use a hexagon shape

Honeycombs aren't intentionally hexagonal. They're initially circular, but the body heat from the bees forces them into a hexagonal arrangement, similar how circular bubbles clumped together create hexagons.

 

[Soyteen Liker]