Shit EVERYBODY Cares About! About Guns for Self Defence

[nazi_femboys_won1488]

Whats the point of using something like AR15 for home defence when you can use a shotgun? Shouldnt shotguns be better for home defence since in close quarters you can turn a burglars head into potato mush?

And on the street you cant even hide that rifle (unless you hide it in a car o algo) so in a street fight wouldnt a handgun be better since you can just pull it and empty the mag on a nigger? So whats the point of owning something like an AR15 other than shitty larp? Like if you are going to buy a rifle to larp buy some keyed nazi gun or an ak47 or something so at least it looks cool.

I was going to ask this on 4cucks k but they are massive faggots so i didnt want to.

 

[Slvt4BIBISI]

Like if you are going to buy a rifle to larp buy some keyed nazi gun or an ak47 or something so at least it looks cool.

Ak47 and nazi submachine guns are full auto while the AR15 is semi auto.

 

[Retarded Gay Negro]

It depends. Against multiple attackers (5+) I would choose an AR-15 any day, larger magazine size and ease of followup shots makes it superior. Also, if you are a weak chudcel who's clitty bursts from even the slightest recoil (or a woman), an AR-15 would be better than a heavy 12 gauge shotgun.

On the street yes a concealed handgund is the best. A truck rifle can be useful but in the city isn't a good idea.

I have a Mav88 shotgun for home defense and a 3d printed glock 9mm pistol for self defense on the streetz, but I also keep an AR-15 style rifle in my room.

 

[1844 or Something]

I live in a rural area, so my AR is for incase I see someone brown in the field behind my house

 

[baqqrih]

I'd guess that ammo capacity (around 8 shells versus a 30 round mag), weight (shotguns are a bit heftier, albeit if you are hunkered down somewhere you could probably prop it up on a piece of furniture like a bed or a table if need be), and speed (in comparison to pump-action or lever-action, anyway, but a semi-auto shotgun still solves this) are the three primary factors that someone might think of for using an AR over a shotgun, but even then, I still feel like if you did hunker down in an enclosed space with your shotgun focused on a door, you'd still deal enough damage and have enough ammo to fend off multiple intruders if they tried to burst on in. So, like you've identified, I'd also have to think that shotguns are much more convenient for home defense, and ideally, a semi-auto would be just perfect, since it eliminates any of that concern for speed, but maybe the ammo capacity and price of the ARs by comparison are more appealing to some folk.
Also, while looking some stuff up, I found this unrelated home defense video I thought I'd share. I just find it really hilarious because of how unintentionally murderous the guy sounds

 

[Stephen]

How much do shotguns and 12 gauge cost compared to AR15s and 5.56? Also there are us who live in cucked blue states that wont let us own proper ARs, so perhaps we'd be forced into the shotgun category

 

[1844 or Something]

How much do shotguns and 12 gauge cost compared to AR15s and 5.56? Also there are us who live in cucked blue states that wont let us own proper ARs, so perhaps we'd be forced into the shotgun category

Low end would be ~$300 for a pump shotgun and ~$500 for an AR. I also managed to find a few 12 gauge ARs for $400-$500.

 

[Gem Control]

It depends how hefty the cleanup is...

 

[Lism]

Whats the point of using something like AR15 for home defence when you can use a shotgun? Shouldnt shotguns be better for home defence since in close quarters you can turn a burglars head into potato mush?

And on the street you cant even hide that rifle (unless you hide it in a car o algo) so in a street fight wouldnt a handgun be better since you can just pull it and empty the mag on a nigger? So whats the point of owning something like an AR15 other than shitty larp? Like if you are going to buy a rifle to larp buy some keyed nazi gun or an ak47 or something so at least it looks cool.

I was going to ask this on 4cucks k but they are massive faggots so i didnt want to.

AR-15 is less damaging to your house, also one bullet is usually enough stopping power so it's better to focus on how fast you can shoot bullets rather than how powerful. Obviously you can't carry a rifle around in public unless you're wearing some big ass coat or something. I agree that it isn't as big a deal as 2A obsessives make it out to be, but I wouldn't want to sound like a fudd

 

[_account]

Shotguns are better for indoor fighting, rifles are better for outdoor fighting. Also, a 12 gauge buckshot has only twice the impact energy of the 5.56 while the AR has over 3x the capacity. The answer? Get both.

 

[_account]

I think these videos say it best

 

[_account]

I think these videos say it best

Weird fact: that guy is the cousin of Keanu Reeves, and is also the brother of the mayor of Tallahassee Florida.

 

[𝗠𝗞𝗖]

OP you're kinda right but not getting it entirely. See, the basic-bitch .223 (most people don't even buy real 5.56 ammo, main difference is pressure & some shitty ARs aren't rated for 5.56) AR-15 is a piece of shit peashooter that was made popular because draftniggers in Vietnam couldn't handle the good ol' M14. They complained about it being too heavy, difficult to control in full-auto, and apparently modifying an M1 Garand is... le bad!
The AR platform itself isn't terrible in its original ArmaLite AR-10 form. But the US ZOGitary had to fuck it up, that was just inevitable. They made Eugene Stoner change the caliber from 7.62x51mm (very similar to .308) to 5.56, and despite Stoner's objections a janky little forward assist also got added.
In yet another act of US niggertary retardation, the first rifles sent to Vietnam for trials were complete dogshit. They didn't have chrome-lined barrels resulting in rust, and the decision to cheap out on powder in ammo (literally going against what was clearly outlined) meant a lot of the rifles got filthy as fuck and jammed constantly. It's a miracle how they kept pushing that piece of junk.

Oh, uh, shotguns are fine unless you're a nigger that uses birdshot.

 

[gem_river]

OP you're kinda right but not getting it entirely. See, the basic-bitch .223 (most people don't even buy real 5.56 ammo, main difference is pressure & some shitty ARs aren't rated for 5.56) AR-15 is a piece of shit peashooter that was made popular because draftniggers in Vietnam couldn't handle the good ol' M14. They complained about it being too heavy, difficult to control in full-auto, and apparently modifying an M1 Garand is... le bad!
The AR platform itself isn't terrible in its original ArmaLite AR-10 form. But the US ZOGitary had to fuck it up, that was just inevitable. They made Eugene Stoner change the caliber from 7.62x51mm (very similar to .308) to 5.56, and despite Stoner's objections a janky little forward assist also got added.
In yet another act of US niggertary retardation, the first rifles sent to Vietnam for trials were complete dogshit. They didn't have chrome-lined barrels resulting in rust, and the decision to cheap out on powder in ammo (literally going against what was clearly outlined) meant a lot of the rifles got filthy as fuck and jammed constantly. It's a miracle how they kept pushing that piece of junk.

Oh, uh, shotguns are fine unless you're a nigger that uses birdshot.

Almost got me

They complained about it being too heavy, difficult to control in full-auto, and apparently modifying an M1 Garand is... le bad!

I will say this however, I think the US was trying to do too much with basically an evolved version of the T20 (box-magazine prototype), especially since intermediate-caliber ammunition had been on the rise for quite a couple of years since Vietnam. Maybe as a sniper it works well (see XM21), but as a default infantry rifle/LMG, it's just too outdated compared to what the Vietnamese were carrying (even if they did start out with outdated gear as well, but you had shit like the RPK coming in after a few years. Come on.)

 

[_account]

OP you're kinda right but not getting it entirely. See, the basic-bitch .223 (most people don't even buy real 5.56 ammo, main difference is pressure & some shitty ARs aren't rated for 5.56) AR-15 is a piece of shit peashooter that was made popular because draftniggers in Vietnam couldn't handle the good ol' M14. They complained about it being too heavy, difficult to control in full-auto, and apparently modifying an M1 Garand is... le bad!
The AR platform itself isn't terrible in its original ArmaLite AR-10 form. But the US ZOGitary had to fuck it up, that was just inevitable. They made Eugene Stoner change the caliber from 7.62x51mm (very similar to .308) to 5.56, and despite Stoner's objections a janky little forward assist also got added.
In yet another act of US niggertary retardation, the first rifles sent to Vietnam for trials were complete dogshit. They didn't have chrome-lined barrels resulting in rust, and the decision to cheap out on powder in ammo (literally going against what was clearly outlined) meant a lot of the rifles got filthy as fuck and jammed constantly. It's a miracle how they kept pushing that piece of junk.

Oh, uh, shotguns are fine unless you're a nigger that uses birdshot.

Are you serious? I'm asking because you've said some really dumb shit in the past so it's hard to tell if you're being ironic

 

[basil]

i don’t think any of you are actually going to use a firearm for self defense. i feel like it’s going to be the opposite.

 

[𝗠𝗞𝗖]

Almost got me

Yeah most of that post was ironic, I just felt like pretending to be a fat alcoholic boomer posting on TheHighRoad lmao. The only part where I was even half-serious was about the troubles it faced during the early parts of its use in Vietnam. But in all honesty, that piece of shit M14 was still worse. All of the M16's problems were easily rectified, and I'm pretty sure there was a bit of sabotage involved within the military because of the M14's rather fast demise. I can't remember the exact details but one branch was extremely keen on not replacing it, even with its poor performance out in the field they were more concerned about lobbying and muh contracts. Well, I think. I'm tired so I may be wrong.

Are you serious? I'm asking because you've said some really dumb shit in the past so it's hard to tell if you're being ironic

Not really.

Maybe as a sniper it works well (see XM21), but as a default infantry rifle/LMG, it's just too outdated compared to what the Vietnamese were carrying

That's spot-on, in fact I believe it was used (and still might be) for marksman roles after being replaced as the primary service rifle. I really don't know what the fuck they were thinking. There were several instances of US troops using captured AKs during the war, and I wouldn't doubt it was because even those rusty, poorly-maintained hunks of shit worked better.

 

[cobbycov]

Guns are bad.

 

[gem_river]

Guns are bad.

Okay but what if somebody is trying to kill you .........

 

[_account]

Not really.

That's a relief, I don't really care about people talking shit about the m16 but it peeves me to no end when somebody meatrides the m14. The ar-10 and FN FAL absolutely dusted that piece of shit in army trials.