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Discussion People operate on personality and philosophy, emotion is satan (when it comes to your actions)

polt

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We live in a world where the average man is completely devoid of higher purpose, meaning, ambition, etc. The average person strives only for themselves and out of emotional impulse. There is no monarchy nor national religion to give people a sense of life, there is no stated moral belief for the masses. Democracy and secularism breed the most soulless people and cities. This is why normies need to die
 
What about Greece/Rome?
Idk, do you consider fucking little boys to be a spiritually rich activity? Them ancient greeks/romans loved doing that, except the Persians. But you don't seem to admire them much. Cyrus's Empire lasted for centuries, Alexander's Empire fell apart right after he died. That in itself shows who was better.
 
except the Persians
They also did thet allbeit. It is not clear if in the ancient times people in lower and middle classes did that but there is evidence that the nobility fucked boys among other sexually weird stuff.
 
What about Greece/Rome?
Which one? There's pre christian, christian, modern, etc. I believe that nearly everyone was morally and emotionally secure pre 21st century, because their government, society, religion, etc all promoted a healthy moral and philosophical construct (which is the basis of kindness alongside personality). In pre christian society, it was mostly the same, but there are some depictions of pederasty n stuff which is off putting, I highly doubt it applied to the general population.
 
They also did thet allbeit. It is not clear if in the ancient times people in lower and middle classes did that but there is evidence that the nobility fucked boys among other sexually weird stuff.
There is of course. I don't deny that the people did it. The difference is, Zoroastrianism explicitly condemns it while the Ancient Romans/Greeks did not. So one regarded it as a moral failing while the other regarded it as a good thing.
 
That’s like saying all pastors rape kids. Only the elite did, and still do that. Also, what are you gonna do when the monarch turns into Bloody Mary and no one can lift a finger to stop them.
Bloody Mary wasn't even that bad geg. She's portrayed in an overly bad fashion in English history due to the Protestant bias, because she was Catholic. This idea applies generally too, look up the Spanish Black Legend for example. A lot of things you take for granted in history, including the hatred towards monarchy, is just English/Dutch propaganda.
 
That’s like saying all pastors rape kids. Only the elite did, and still do that. Also, what are you gonna do when the monarch turns into Bloody Mary and no one can lift a finger to stop them.
That kinda applies to all leaders, no government has ever been resistant to corruption and war.

That is because of capitalismerinos not democracy
Capitalism only has moral control if there's democracy. This is the reason why you see only two parties in america and they're always ran by millionaires... Actually, I agree with that too somewhat. Late stage capitalism eliminates private businesses near completely, it's more tolerable in poor or "third world" countries. I believe that the correct government and ideology could make capitalism less soulless, but socialism in the end is superior (in my opinion).
 
Bloody Mary wasn't even that bad geg. She's portrayed in an overly bad fashion in English history due to the Protestant bias, because she was Catholic. This idea applies generally too, look up the Spanish Black Legend for example. A lot of things you take for granted in history, including the hatred towards monarchy, is just English/Dutch propaganda.
Alright but what is the common man to do when a monarch goes full tyrant? Which has happened many times in history.
 
Alright but what is the common man to do when a monarch goes full tyrant? Which has happened many times in history.
Monarch's power was, in most cases, balanced out by the power of the church. For example in the Russian Church there's a saint who was martyred for going against Ivan the Terrible and standing up for the serfs. Monarch's power isn't unlimited. Although Russia was always an extreme case with the Emperors being too authoritarian. It worked better in Byzantium.
 
Alright but what is the common man to do when a monarch goes full tyrant? Which has happened many times in history.
Tyrants aren't limited to monarchs doe, there were arguably more tyrants under other forms of power. It would be the same with any other form of government. It's either tolerable by the masses, or there will be rebellion. When I think of tyranny, I'm mainly concerned for genocide and poor resource management, starvation, etc, which usually only affects an isolated group of people, where a large scale rebellion is mostly impossible.
 
Bloody Mary wasn't even that bad geg. She's portrayed in an overly bad fashion in English history due to the Protestant bias, because she was Catholic. This idea applies generally too, look up the Spanish Black Legend for example. A lot of things you take for granted in history, including the hatred towards monarchy, is just English/Dutch propaganda.
Yes, Henry VIII was worse and the Black Legend was mostly exaggerated, But I must say that there are truths to them. The treatment of Natives under New Spain were less than favorable. I will say that it is significantly better to that of the treatment of natives by the English.
 
Tyrants aren't limited to monarchs doe, there were arguably more tyrants under other forms of power. It would be the same with any other form of government. It's either tolerable by the masses, or there will be rebellion. When I think of tyranny, I'm mainly concerned for genocide and poor resource management, starvation, etc, which usually only affects an isolated group of people, where a large scale rebellion is mostly impossible.
Communism
 
Yes, Henry VIII was worse and the Black Legend was mostly exaggerated, But I must say that there are truths to them. The treatment of Natives under New Spain were less than favorable. I will say that it is significantly better to that of the treatment of natives by the English.
Yeah I'm not saying the Spanish were great or anything, they did many bad things too. I just really hate the fact that people act like the Spanish were the worst colonizers when in reality I'd say they were the most humane ones, relatively speaking. The Spanish Empire was the first to give any legal rights to the natives.
 
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