Discussion What is your favorite form of Fascism?

[Cobbert]

Well I guess you could say that fascism both early on in development and today is third-way, You can still be a socialist and a nationalist. Just look at Joseph Stalin’s policy in the USSR

The USSRs stated goal was not to benefit Russia (even if that was what it only really did in reality) but to build an alliance of communist nations and spread the ideology until every country is socialist.
Stalin still called himself an internationalist. He just ignored it in praxis by claiming he was pragmatic and that the country should focus on consolidating power first before helping others. But this is still different from Mussolini, who never cared about non-Italians and never pretended to do so.

 

[Meliton Manzanas]

The USSRs stated goal was not to benefit Russia (even if that was what it only really did in reality) but to build an alliance of communist nations and spread the ideology until every country is socialist.
Stalin still called himself an internationalist. He just ignored it in praxis by claiming he was pragmatic and that the country should focus on consolidating power first before helping others. But this is still different from Mussolini, who never cared about non-Italians and never pretended to do so.

Stalin literally had conflict with Trotsky and several other Bolsheviks on whether there should be Global-Revolution and international socialism or whether Socialism should be practiced in Russia first; Stalin picked the latter (Socialism for the nation first) And Trotsky picked International socialist global revolution

 

[Meliton Manzanas]

The USSRs stated goal was not to benefit Russia (even if that was what it only really did in reality) but to build an alliance of communist nations and spread the ideology until every country is socialist.
Stalin still called himself an internationalist. He just ignored it in praxis by claiming he was pragmatic and that the country should focus on consolidating power first before helping others. But this is still different from Mussolini, who never cared about non-Italians and never pretended to do so.

I don’t like socialism or communism btw I am mostly a Nationalist I am only explaining how at first Fascism was an early form of fascism (which it was) Yes fascism today and ww2 era was definently not socialist since it rivaled and was reactionary to communism but fascism at first was A socialist ideology

 

[Cobbert]

Stalin literally had conflict with Trotsky and several other Bolsheviks on whether there should be Global-Revolution and international socialism or whether Socialism should be practiced in Russia first; Stalin picked the latter (Socialism for the nation first) And Trotsky picked International socialist global revolution

Yes and Stalin still never formally abandoned the idea that eventually socialism would spread to other countries too.

 

[Meliton Manzanas]

Yes and Stalin still never formally abandoned the idea that eventually socialism would spread to other countries too.

But he literally said his policies and reasoning for kicking out trotsky and doing a purge of thousands of Bolshevik party members was over whether or not there should be Global international revolution or only practicing and building socialism in Russia first which Stalin‘s policy was that

 

[Cobbert]

But he literally said his policies and reasoning for kicking out trotsky and doing a purge of thousands of Bolshevik party members was over whether or not there should be Global international revolution or only practicing and building socialism in Russia first which Stalin‘s policy was that

You don't understand the difference between "Other countries will preferably become socialist too eventually but let's not focus on it now" and "We don't care if other countries turn socialist, ever".

 

[basil]

idk what any of this means lol

 

[Meliton Manzanas]

You don't understand the difference between "Other countries will preferably become socialist too eventually but let's not focus on it now" and "We don't care if other countries turn socialist, ever".

He was a Nationalist and He practiced socialism explicitly only in Russia; Stalin’s thoughts and policies differed extremely from Lenin and serveral other bolsheviks thoughts such as Trotsky in that of Internationalism or Nationalism And several other things too. That’s why Lenin warned the party not to allow stalin to take charge of the country

 

[Cobbert]

Okay I’m getting tired so you won on this one

 

[Meliton Manzanas]

Okay I’m getting tired so you won on this one

So you lost? Thanks for admitting I was right. Also Aren’t you an actual tranny?

 

[Mongoloigul]

Strasserism

 

[Meliton Manzanas]

Strasserism

Explain why, Inknow that dude was an actual socialist

 

[AshkeNazi]

neoconservativism

 

[AshkeNazi]

fascism is called "third positionist" because it adopts elements of both leftism and rightism
most forms of fascism nowadays emphasize the rightist aspects as a result of nazi influence, similarly to how most forms of revolutionary socialism today are influenced by marxism-leninism

 

[isammy]

To the People of the blog who like and are into fascism what is your favorite form of it and why? For me this is like asking What is your favorite ice cream; Personally I go back and forth on what type I like most,y due to larp and what I do research into

ummmmmmmmmmmmmm ACKtually I thinjk fascism and any other type of political extremism is le bad o algo

 

[siculoDEI]

Francoism, actual golden age of spain, and Christ is at the center of it. I am also fond of Italian fascism and German nazism.

 

[SoyToon]

My favorite kind of Fascism is banning people I don’t like

 

[Gemaryancoper1488]

I think the Syrian Nationalist movement, it trying to united people of the levant instead of pan-Arabism that want to united Arab speaking people. The Syrian Socialist Nationalist Party also made the Lebanese president seethed.