Urban or Rural, which would you rather live in?
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rural, just for futureproofing myself
if everything collapses or becomes some blueballed state between about-to-collapse and everything being only barely livable perma-recession for the average person, and you live rural, then functionally nothing has changed. you're still off-grid with 20 chickens, you're still dirt poor for western standards, but happy the way you are. you own the land you live on, at least, unless this is a trailer park.
if everything collapses like that and you're stuck with a mountain of debt (because you're doing fucking payment installments on a pizza due to living paycheck to paycheck to finance your exciting city life) while living in a $10,000/month pod in san francisco (formerly a $2,000/month pod), then what exactly are you going to do? you have been dependent on the techno-enslaver and the great deceiver for your right to live in such a concrete anthill, and now you will simply be discarded and forgotten when it no longer needs you. homelessness? urban rot? cannibalism? wallet stolen by irl shittoko? many things can happen once city industry growth is no longer self sustaining
if everything collapses or becomes some blueballed state between about-to-collapse and everything being only barely livable perma-recession for the average person, and you live rural, then functionally nothing has changed. you're still off-grid with 20 chickens, you're still dirt poor for western standards, but happy the way you are. you own the land you live on, at least, unless this is a trailer park.
if everything collapses like that and you're stuck with a mountain of debt (because you're doing fucking payment installments on a pizza due to living paycheck to paycheck to finance your exciting city life) while living in a $10,000/month pod in san francisco (formerly a $2,000/month pod), then what exactly are you going to do? you have been dependent on the techno-enslaver and the great deceiver for your right to live in such a concrete anthill, and now you will simply be discarded and forgotten when it no longer needs you. homelessness? urban rot? cannibalism? wallet stolen by irl shittoko? many things can happen once city industry growth is no longer self sustaining
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Urban because there's nothing to do in rural areas and everything is 10x times as inconvenient because of shit infrastructure and increased transport costs. You will still have to go to the city if you need to do anything important so it's kind of pointless too. I would only ever own a summer home in a rural area if I was rich, or something.
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Rural and by a longshot. You're more free with rural land than in an urban environment. You're also around less people, and these days, internet speeds are fast enough that you are able to get by, even in a small town like where I live. If you had even 5 megabits per second, or around 0.625 megabytes per second, you can get by presuming said connection were consistently that high. You wouldn't be able to watch higher quality videos, but you'd still easily post onto forums. You can also upload and download files, albeit with a bit of lag. If you had 20 megabits, or around 2.5 megabytes, and that were per second, you'd probably be able to play older games like Halo 2 online without too much lag. You should be using ethernet anyways for consistency, but whatever. The point is, there is no downside to the rural life over the urban life, unless you really want to be by tons of people and businesses.
Internet is easy to access without being in cities now, you have significantly more freedom with a rural life than an urban one, and if a second COVID of sorts happened, the rural-towns would move on after a few weeks whereas the cities could be locked down heavily for months or even years. Some could also argue that the rural life leads to the interactions you *do* have being more meaningful. The people who live there either have lived in the town their entire life, have had family live there for their entire lives, or have lived in small-towns in general for all of their life. If the residents there own obscene amounts of land, and can make sure it is never given up, then it can also be rendered harder to create urban environments, meaning you will likely be able to live in peace there for the rest of your days.
Even if you don't become a farmer, it still pays off in the long run to live in the rural environments, although I'd recommend going for a town with 1000 or less people if you can, and certainly no larger than around 5,000. I cannot say at all whether those are good numbers in other countries, but down here in the U.S. those are often small-towns, and honestly, I've seen towns with 200~ people or less, so you could likely go smaller than 1000.
Internet is easy to access without being in cities now, you have significantly more freedom with a rural life than an urban one, and if a second COVID of sorts happened, the rural-towns would move on after a few weeks whereas the cities could be locked down heavily for months or even years. Some could also argue that the rural life leads to the interactions you *do* have being more meaningful. The people who live there either have lived in the town their entire life, have had family live there for their entire lives, or have lived in small-towns in general for all of their life. If the residents there own obscene amounts of land, and can make sure it is never given up, then it can also be rendered harder to create urban environments, meaning you will likely be able to live in peace there for the rest of your days.
Even if you don't become a farmer, it still pays off in the long run to live in the rural environments, although I'd recommend going for a town with 1000 or less people if you can, and certainly no larger than around 5,000. I cannot say at all whether those are good numbers in other countries, but down here in the U.S. those are often small-towns, and honestly, I've seen towns with 200~ people or less, so you could likely go smaller than 1000.
