God is literally like sauroman dude!

[Soynic Hedgehog]

>See video seemingly debunking/challenging the idea that native americans were perfect natural stewards
>Click it
>Instant bombing with leftist retard language while man insists that he is in fact a centrist you guys!
>Starts quoting genisis part about dominion over animals with a voice filter and lord of the rings evil wizard scene overlayed over his footage
>Calls genisis part some kind of 4chan manifesto
>Video goes on with, okay, maybe the native americans do a little bad but ONLY the men, and its actually a patriarchal thing. Also colonism and critical theory is the root of all evil.
Thats what I get for trying to branch out on youtube I guess. Good god.

I fucking hate niggers that try to lure you in by questioning one strawman of the leftist mindset, then reveal they are just some faggot like vaush or destiny who is still a raging ideologue but "not like the other leftists you guys!"

 

[baqqrih]

Oh, yeah, that's the guy who wants to tear down all of the Confederate statues. I remember the name.

 

[Xiuhcoyotl]

i heard somebody say native americans..

 

[Dr. Cobson (PhD)]

Oh, yeah, that's the guy who wants to tear down all of the Confederate statues. I remember the name.

I don't get why people do this. Genuinely. I may be blabbering my ass off since I don't live in the US but I see absolutely no point in tearing down statues of Confederate generals like Robert E. Lee and Stonewall Jackson. Actually it's more funny since Robert E. Lee was anti-slavery and only fought for the South since he sympathized with his state more (at least I think that's what happened)

 

[Soynic Hedgehog]

Oh, yeah, that's the guy who wants to tear down all of the Confederate statues. I remember the name.

That's reassuring that he's a retard. I have a bad habit of always being a devil's advocate against my own worldview values, I think I have internalized the anti european rhetoric to a degree subconciously, so I can't handle watching these videos all the way through, without the manipulation rubbing off on me. Lots of times if I can't come up with some data on the spot (which is pretty much all of the time) I get a feeling that my viewpoint must be wrong. I know this logic is flawed but it still gets to me sometimes.

I was born in raised in a leftist area where I was fed leftist rhetoric all the time at school and the internet and such, which is probably why I feel this way.

 

[Soynic Hedgehog]

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i heard somebody say native americans..

Native UNITED STATES americans, not mexicans.

 

[Xiuhcoyotl]

I don't get why people do this. Genuinely. I may be blabbering my ass off since I don't live in the US but I see absolutely no point in tearing down statues of Confederate generals like Robert E. Lee and Stonewall Jackson. Actually it's more funny since Robert E. Lee was anti-slavery and only fought for the South since he sympathized with his state more (at least I think that's what happened)

people don't want to be reminded of history, especially those affected by it. i myself am impartial to whether statues of historical figures should be removed or not (ev&oe my people were affected by genocides and a great replacement).

 

[Xiuhcoyotl]

Native UNITED STATES americans, not mexicans.

the uto-aztecan language and the mexica originate in the southwestern united states.

there's a lot of connections between the hopi and mexica origin stories.

 

[Soynic Hedgehog]

I don't get why people do this. Genuinely. I may be blabbering my ass off since I don't live in the US but I see absolutely no point in tearing down statues of Confederate generals like Robert E. Lee and Stonewall Jackson. Actually it's more funny since Robert E. Lee was anti-slavery and only fought for the South since he sympathized with his state more (at least I think that's what happened)

Its effigy burning. Destroying the old and monuments to the past, motivated by a selective and propagandized version of US history. Most people don't know jack shit about the confederates except for what they were taught in gradeschool and what they saw in anti confederate movies meant to highlight black suffering. Even I, a chud don't know anything more than that. But I know there has to have been way more to it, as there always is, and way more nuance than "ALL CONFEDERATES ARE EVIL AND EVERYONE JUST WANTED SLAVES AND HATED BLACK PPL WHICH IS WHY EVERYTHING IN THE WAR HAPPENED" bs.

 

[Soynic Hedgehog]

the uto-aztecan language and the mexica originate in the southwestern united states.

there's a lot of connections between the hopi and mexica origin stories.

I don't really know anything about central american native history. I was just saying in the video he was focusing on eastern woodland tribes and west coast tribes.

 

[Dr. Cobson (PhD)]

I don't really know anything about central american native history. I was just saying in the video he was focusing on eastern woodland tribes and west coast tribes.

I appreciate the fact Natives managed to survive for so long especially considering the fact they were nearly wiped out by the Europeans' arrival on the continent, but I genuinely do not understand a single bit of their history. It could be me being ignorant but it's just too convoluted.

 

[Xiuhcoyotl]

I don't really know anything about central american native history. I was just saying in the video he was focusing on eastern woodland tribes and west coast tribes.

ev&oe us mexica migrated to mexico from the southwest and not central america.

 

[Soynic Hedgehog]

ev&oe us mexica migrated to mexico from the southwest and not central america.

Tell me about your brown history then

 

[Xiuhcoyotl]

I appreciate the fact Natives managed to survive for so long especially considering the fact they were nearly wiped out by the Europeans' arrival on the continent, but I genuinely do not understand a single bit of their history. It could be me being ignorant but it's just too convoluted.

different histories for different tribes. some may be similar and have similar outcomes but different circumstances.

 

[Xiuhcoyotl]

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Tell me about your brown history then

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Aztlán (from Nahuatl languages: Astatlan or romanized Aztlán, Nahuatl ) is the ancestral home of the Aztec peoples. The word "Aztec" was derived from the Nahuatl aztecah, meaning "people from Aztlán." Aztlán is mentioned in several ethnohistorical sources dating from the colonial period, and while each cites varying lists of the different tribal groups who participated in the migration from Aztlán to central Mexico, the Mexica who later founded Mexico-Tenochtitlan are mentioned in all of the accounts.

Aztlán (also spelled Aztlan or sometimes Aztalan) is the name of the mythical homeland of the Aztecs, the ancient Mesoamerican civilization also known as the Mexica. According to their origin myth, the Mexica left Aztlan at the behest of their god/ruler Huitzilopochtli, to find a new home in the Valley of Mexico. In the Nahua language, Aztlan means “the Place of Whiteness” or “the Place of the Heron.” Whether it was a real place or not is open to question.

According to the various Mexica versions of the stories, their homeland Aztlan was a luxurious and delightful place located on a large lake, where everyone was immortal and lived happily among abundant resources. There was a steep hill called Colhuacan in the middle of the lake, and in the hill were caves and caverns known collectively as Chicomoztoc, where the ancestors of the Aztec lived. The land was filled with vast quantities of ducks, herons, and other waterfowl; red and yellow birds sang incessantly; great and beautiful fish swam in the waters and shade trees lined the banks.

At Aztlan, the people fished from canoes and tended their floating gardens of maize, peppers, beans, amaranth, and tomatoes.

One day a man heard a bird calling to him, saying, "Go now, go now." When the man told the chief about the bird, the chief was relieved. He had known his people must find a new land, their own land, but had waited for a sign. So the people gathered and began a long march. They followed an idol of Huitzilopochtli that the priests carried. As they went, Huitzilopochtli spoke through the priests and prepared the people for the greatness of their empire to come. He explained that they should travel until they came to a large lake; there, they should look for another sign—an eagle in a cactus.

The journey took 200 years, and the people settled for a while in the Toltec capital of Tollan. Some people stayed in Tollan and some moved on. From time to time, Huitzilopochtli changed himself into a white eagle to inspire the people, and they traveled until they came to Lake Texcoco and saw a great eagle sitting on a cactus, holding a serpent. There they built Tenochtitlán, the city that became the capital and center of the Aztec empire.

this right here is, Chicōmōztōc the name for the mythical origin place of the Aztec Mexicas, Tepanecs, Acolhuas, and other Nahuatl-speaking peoples (or Nahuas) of Mesoamerica, in the Postclassic period.

The term Chicomoztoc derives from Nahuatl chicome (“seven”), oztotl (“cave”), and -c (“place”). In symbolic terms these caves within a hill have been compared to the wombs from which the various peoples were born; another possible association is with the seven orifices of the human body. In either case, this term is associated with the origin, birth, or beginning of a group of people, both mythic and historical.

 

[Soynic Hedgehog]

red*

Aztlán (from Nahuatl languages: Astatlan or romanized Aztlán, Nahuatl ) is the ancestral home of the Aztec peoples. The word "Aztec" was derived from the Nahuatl aztecah, meaning "people from Aztlán." Aztlán is mentioned in several ethnohistorical sources dating from the colonial period, and while each cites varying lists of the different tribal groups who participated in the migration from Aztlán to central Mexico, the Mexica who later founded Mexico-Tenochtitlan are mentioned in all of the accounts.

Aztlán (also spelled Aztlan or sometimes Aztalan) is the name of the mythical homeland of the Aztecs, the ancient Mesoamerican civilization also known as the Mexica. According to their origin myth, the Mexica left Aztlan at the behest of their god/ruler Huitzilopochtli, to find a new home in the Valley of Mexico. In the Nahua language, Aztlan means “the Place of Whiteness” or “the Place of the Heron.” Whether it was a real place or not is open to question.

According to the various Mexica versions of the stories, their homeland Aztlan was a luxurious and delightful place located on a large lake, where everyone was immortal and lived happily among abundant resources. There was a steep hill called Colhuacan in the middle of the lake, and in the hill were caves and caverns known collectively as Chicomoztoc, where the ancestors of the Aztec lived. The land was filled with vast quantities of ducks, herons, and other waterfowl; red and yellow birds sang incessantly; great and beautiful fish swam in the waters and shade trees lined the banks.

At Aztlan, the people fished from canoes and tended their floating gardens of maize, peppers, beans, amaranth, and tomatoes.

One day a man heard a bird calling to him, saying, "Go now, go now." When the man told the chief about the bird, the chief was relieved. He had known his people must find a new land, their own land, but had waited for a sign. So the people gathered and began a long march. They followed an idol of Huitzilopochtli that the priests carried. As they went, Huitzilopochtli spoke through the priests and prepared the people for the greatness of their empire to come. He explained that they should travel until they came to a large lake; there, they should look for another sign—an eagle in a cactus.

The journey took 200 years, and the people settled for a while in the Toltec capital of Tollan. Some people stayed in Tollan and some moved on. From time to time, Huitzilopochtli changed himself into a white eagle to inspire the people, and they traveled until they came to Lake Texcoco and saw a great eagle sitting on a cactus, holding a serpent. There they built Tenochtitlán, the city that became the capital and center of the Aztec empire.

this right here is, Chicōmōztōc the name for the mythical origin place of the Aztec Mexicas, Tepanecs, Acolhuas, and other Nahuatl-speaking peoples (or Nahuas) of Mesoamerica, in the Postclassic period.

The term Chicomoztoc derives from Nahuatl chicome (“seven”), oztotl (“cave”), and -c (“place”). In symbolic terms these caves within a hill have been compared to the wombs from which the various peoples were born; another possible association is with the seven orifices of the human body. In either case, this term is associated with the origin, birth, or beginning of a group of people, both mythic and historical.
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Sounds like the hyperborean mysticism pol always talks about

 

[Xiuhcoyotl]

Sounds like the hyperborean mysticism pol always talks about

aztlan is often thought to be in mexico, but how would it take 200 years for an entire group of people to travel from nayarit(supposed place of aztlan) to tenochtitlan(mexico city) even with mountainous terrain. it'd be far more likely to be in the united states, given how local tribes such as the hopi, share a similar origin story(7 caves) as us mexica.

this map shows a region of america called, oasisamerica. it's a region of agrarian tribes inside of aridoamerica(barren desert). this right here could also have had islands in the middle of large lakes. afterall, oasisamerica has the word oasis in it.

 

[Soynic Hedgehog]

aztlan is often thought to be in mexico, but how would it take 200 years for an entire group of people to travel from nayarit(supposed place of aztlan) to tenochtitlan(mexico city) even with mountainous terrain. it'd be far more likely to be in the united states, given how local tribes such as the hopi, share a similar origin story(7 caves) as us mexica.

this map shows a region of america called, oasisamerica. it's a region of agrarian tribes inside of aridoamerica(barren desert). this right here could also have had islands in the middle of large lakes. afterall, oasisamerica has the word oasis in it.
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Do the mexican states have specific reputations/cultures like us states do? Also is baja a libtard shithole like its neighbor?

 

[Xiuhcoyotl]

Do the mexican states have specific reputations/cultures like us states do? Also is baja a libtard shithole like its neighbor?

yes. but it mostly depends on their what region of mexico you stay in. northern mexico is different from central and southern mexico due to their history and populations. northern mexican states like tamaulipas are influenced by us culture and vice versa whereas southern mexico is more indigenous(culturally and population wise).

baja california is not as liberal as california proper but it's still liberal and baja even had liberals revolting against the mexican government back during the revolution.

 

[Soynic Hedgehog]

yes. but it mostly depends on their what region of mexico you stay in. northern mexico is different from central and southern mexico due to their history and populations. northern mexican states like tamaulipas are influenced by us culture and vice versa whereas southern mexico is more indigenous(culturally and population wise).

baja california is not as liberal as california proper but it's still liberal and baja even had liberals revolting against the mexican government back during the revolution.

Is mexico gonna be superpower 2030?